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In4ser

Junior Member
How do you walk and play chess at the same time? On your phone or something? I would suggest against it since you are liable to walk into a pole if you are occupied with your phone.
That’s precisely the problem, the US tries to do everything and fails to accomplish anything. I can’t name a single policy or objective in the past decade or so that my government has successfully achieved. Operation Warp Speed is the closest thing and much of it was outsourcing the work to the German company BioNTech. It’s like a dog chasing its own tail because it loves the smell of it’s own bullshit.
 

Jingle Bells

Junior Member
Registered Member
US having the most powerful military force prevented PRC from deploying its own forces to fight directly against US during Vietnam War.
I see.
That's very true.
Bravo to the US.

I suppose the Indians are also "most powerful military force", because it prevented many countries (including China) from fighting directly against India in the India-Pakistan wars.
The same also goes for Russia, preventing anyone else from fighting the Russians directly in this current war in Ukraine.

Wow, I guess we Chinese are the cucks, eh. lol

Oh, wait, didn't we fight the Vietnamese too in 1979? I guess we are not cucks after all, because at least we prevented others (USSR, top on the list) from fighting us directly in Vietnam in 1979, right?
 

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
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Moderator - World Affairs
Didn't US attack first in the ongoing trade war, tech war, financial war? In terms of PRC reciprocal sanctions, I personally wouldn't characterize PRC's "biting back" as hard.
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte

Chinese government has been advocating self-sufficiency for ages. No one paid attention. When Comrade Trump put sanctions on Huawei and others, all Chinese corps scrambled to get domestic suppliers.
 

Rettam Stacf

Junior Member
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Well, I am not directing any accusations at you. I gave your replies thumbs-ups, because I am not entirely against what you're saying.
But I don't buy this whole "American thought they could win this 不战而胜 (winning without fighting) against China, until Xi Jinping ruined their plan" rhetoric. This is simply false. CPC was NEVER their enemy, China was. The US has no problem working closely and accepting a communist country willing to co-operate. It is the fact that China is becoming too big and strong, that is the rub.

If China was a capitalist country as powerful as PRC currently, the US will form other rhetoric to counter China. Survival of the CPC doesn't matter, what matters is that the US can most easily destroy China with the fall of CPC. 乘火打劫、乘乱行事。

Imagine if China hypothetically smoothly transition into a non-communist country so fast that the US can't even effective respond, do you really think the US will just hug it out with China? NO, if that happens, the US rhetoric will just transition from anti-communist-left to anti-"fascist"-right. The US has already readied their own population to take China out regardless of whether it is a communist-left country or a "fascist"-right country. The only "good-China" is a poor obedient vulnerable-to-American-power China. For that type of China, the US won't care whether it's run by CPC or some right-wing ultra-nationalistic party.
Fully agree. What is happening to India recently supports your assertion.
 

Phead128

Captain
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Moderator - World Affairs
US having the most powerful military force prevented PRC from deploying its own forces to fight directly against US during Vietnam War.
Wrong, China admitted it sent 320,000 Chinese combat forces to directly engage US during the Vietnam War.

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And US is lucky, Mao Zedong threatened over 1,000,000 Chinese combat forces if the US dared cross the 17th parallel with a land invasion. US couldn't risk another Korean War, so therefore it abandoned South Vietnam when it needed it most.
 
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texx1

Junior Member
I see.
That's very true.
Bravo to the US.

I suppose the Indians are also "most powerful military force", because it prevented many countries (including China) from fighting directly against India in the India-Pakistan wars.
The same also goes for Russia, preventing anyone else from fighting the Russians directly in this current war in Ukraine.

Wow, I guess we Chinese are the cucks, eh. lol

Oh, wait, didn't we fight the Vietnamese too in 1979? I guess we are not cucks after all, because at least we prevented others (USSR, top on the list) from fighting us directly in Vietnam in 1979, right?

If you are going to strawman and putting words in my month. There is no point continuing. Let's just agree to disagree. I don't think it's unreasonable to make the claim that having the most powerful military in the world conveys obvious geopolitical advantages. At the very least, it has a deterrence effect against potential adversaries.
 

Jingle Bells

Junior Member
Registered Member
If you are going to strawman and putting words in my month. There is no point continuing. Let's just agree to disagree. I don't think it's unreasonable to make the claim that having the most powerful military in the world conveys obvious geopolitical advantages. At the very least, it has a deterrence effect against potential adversaries.
You're the one who strawman and put words in my mouth.
Of course there are a lot of benefit to having the most powerful military in the world, when did I ever say it's a bad thing and undesirable?
I am only pointing out that having the most powerful military doe NOT make you omnipotent. Just because you have the most powerful military, does NOT mean that you as a country can get away with foolish decision making.

When a country makes a wrong decision, they will reap what they sow. That's the simple rule of causality. It's simple reality.

I know you are militaristic and 血气方刚, I have no problem with young people being “血气方刚”. But you have to realize your own emotional desire for sensationalism and and cold-hard calculation of national interest based on reality.
 

texx1

Junior Member
Wrong, China admitted it sent 320,000 Chinese combat forces to directly engage US during the Vietnam War.

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And US is lucky, Mao Zedong threatened over 1,000,000 Chinese combat forces if the US dared cross the 17th parallel with a land invasion. US couldn't risk another Korean War, so therefore it abandoned South Vietnam when it needed it most.

I stand corrected. I should have been more accurate in my earlier claim. PLA didn't engaged in front-line/infantry assault operations against US like during the Korean war. PLA did provide logistic, engineering, anti-air support as your articles noted.
 
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