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Bellum_Romanum said:
In the interest of trying to learn more from the contemporary Korean politics and its important relationship with China, the East Asian region, and it's critical play to the U.S. Global China strategic containment policy I ended up listening with an open mind as to how some of the key Koreans and Korean Americans view the current geopolitical challenges and how they're prepared to play their role in the battle of the 2 giants namely, China-US relationship. Boy oh boy, I don't know if am being too sensitive or have simply become allergic to bullshit because this talk (which I invite many of you to take some time to watch and listen to their insights) blew me away in terms of how much the South Korean pro-America factions are beginning to fashion or view themselves from a global perspective. All of the panelists (female Korean works for the CIA, the other worked for the 2nr Bush administration at the NSC and is the vice-dean of Georgetown University) the other is an American educated University of Texas Long horn graduate former Vice-Foreign Minister of South Korea, and the current advisor to the presidential candidate of the people power party (Conservative party) are of the belief that they're not a middle power but a GLOBAL POWER. They are also repeating that China has greatly offended South Korea at the Beijing Olympics etc... I was honestly struck as to how much chest thumping and sycophantic the discussion is to the point that I think the South Koreans have now been infected with their own version of JAI HIND!! SUPAPOWAH 2022.

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South Korea is nick named by Chinese "Country of the Universe" for a good reason, and that nick name is as old as Jai Hind.:D
 
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I agree and I support Russia in this but you guys russophils weird the shxt out of me... Putin deployed almost 200.000 his technically not looking for peaceful solutions here but some of the narratives thrown around by Pro-Russian accounts get on my nerve and sometimes I question myself if we exist in same universe.. In just few days we could be hearing Russia invades Ukraine and you guys are spamming virgin Marie narratives... LMAO this is unbelievable brothers and deserves its own comedy cause this is good material
 
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Arnies said:
I agree and I support Russia in this but you guys russophils weird the shxt out of me... Putin deployed almost 200.000 his technically not looking for peaceful solutions here but some of the narratives thrown around by Pro-Russian accounts get on my nerve and sometimes I question myself if we exist in same universe.. In just few days we could be hearing Russia invades Ukraine and you guys are spamming virgin Marie narratives... LMAO this is unbelievable brothers and deserves its own comedy cause this is good material.
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Yes, I agree and I support Russia in this too, and the Russophiles weird the shxt out of me too. Somehow, the concept of nation-state and sovereign integrity doesn't matter if Russia does it because "US BAD" and Ukraine is a 'US-coup puppet'. Quite frankly, that level of double-standard is what I expect from US and her allies, not from China. We can support Russia against NATO expansionism on peaceful terms without condoning Russian imperialism against Ukraine. Otherwise, diplomacy is nothing more than "Might makes Right" going back to 19th century-style spheres of influence and how badly was China screwed in that era? (e.g., Century of Humiliation) Also, Russia wants to keep Ukraine it's orbit/influence, it needs more than just a 'large stick', it needs 'carrots' too.
 
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Bellum_Romanum said:
In the interest of trying to learn more from the contemporary Korean politics and its important relationship with China, the East Asian region, and it's critical play to the U.S. Global China strategic containment policy I ended up listening with an open mind as to how some of the key Koreans and Korean Americans view the current geopolitical challenges and how they're prepared to play their role in the battle of the 2 giants namely, China-US relationship. Boy oh boy, I don't know if am being too sensitive or have simply become allergic to bullshit because this talk (which I invite many of you to take some time to watch and listen to their insights) blew me away in terms of how much the South Korean pro-America factions are beginning to fashion or view themselves from a global perspective. All of the panelists (female Korean works for the CIA, the other worked for the 2nr Bush administration at the NSC and is the vice-dean of Georgetown University) the other is an American educated University of Texas Long horn graduate former Vice-Foreign Minister of South Korea, and the current advisor to the presidential candidate of the people power party (Conservative party) are of the belief that they're not a middle power but a GLOBAL POWER. They are also repeating that China has greatly offended South Korea at the Beijing Olympics etc... I was honestly struck as to how much chest thumping and sycophantic the discussion is to the point that I think the South Koreans have now been infected with their own version of JAI HIND!! SUPAPOWAH 2022.

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Yes, I've argued with countless Korean nationalists on Asiafinest forum, /r/Korea, and even KoreanSentry forums. The Koreans nationalist think that a Seoul-led reunified Korea should reclaim Gando/Jiando/Manchuria from China and reclaim Tsushima/Daemado from Japan. That Korea should have nuclear ICBMs, nuclear SLBMs subs, and aircraft carriers with a blue-water navy befitting of a global power. These same Korean nationalists absolutely despise Chinese for some reason, likely intense competition in shipbuilding, semiconductors, TVs, mobile phones, Leagues of Legends, etc.... They also despise Americans but see them as a necessary evil after reunification is secured.

Basically, if you take an average Chinese nationalist, but strip away China's wealth, size, power, divided nation in two, and occupy with foreign military, then you get an average Korean nationalist, the same courage, intense fanaticism/love for country, intellectual reasoning, but with an extreme cognitive dissonance and inferiority complex. The Korean nationalist is the most stubborn with extreme cognitive dissonance I've ever argued against (and yes, Indian nationalists are the most shameless and flamboyant and entertaining).
 
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Phead128 said:
Yes, I've argued with countless Korean nationalists on Asiafinest forum, /r/Korea, and even KoreanSentry forums. The Koreans nationalist think that a Seoul-led reunified Korea should reclaim Gando/Jiando/Manchuria from China and reclaim Tsushima/Daemado from Japan. That Korea should have nuclear ICBMs, nuclear SLBMs subs, and aircraft carriers with a blue-water navy befitting of a global power. These same Korean nationalists absolutely despise Chinese for some reason, likely intense competition in shipbuilding, semiconductors, TVs, mobile phones, Leagues of Legends, etc.... They also despise Americans but see them as a necessary evil after reunification is secured.

Basically, if you take an average Chinese nationalist, but strip away China's wealth, size, power, divided nation in two, and occupy with foreign military, then you get an average Korean nationalist, the same courage, intense fanaticism/love for country, intellectual reasoning, but with an extreme cognitive dissonance and inferiority complex. The Korean nationalist is the most stubborn with extreme cognitive dissonance I've ever argued against (and yes, Indian nationalists are the most shameless and flamboyant and entertaining).
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I suspect the Indian nationalists know at heart that their country is a shithole. South Korea isn't a shithole, it's just a minnow surrounded by whales (and a lunatic relative other minnow).
 
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Phead128 said:
Also, Russia wants to keep Ukraine it's orbit/influence, it needs more than just a 'large stick', it needs 'carrots' too.
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I am not sure why you dont see the carrots that are prepared for Germany. it is German responsibility what it want to distribute.
Gazprom has doubled the purchase order of compressor turbines for 2022. it never happened in history.

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