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bajingan

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Had this happened in China, nyt, wapo, bloomberg, bbc, guardian etc would have put this on their front page for months
unsc meeting would have been called

This also proves having india in the quad is a liability
China could easily counter quad Xinjiang fake news by showing the world how india treats its muslims
 
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emblem21

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And yet another day that I am very convinced that while the USA accuses China of human rights abuses, the USA is busy doing the same but worse and even more crazy is brazen about it while they can never provide any real evidence that China has done such things. The day that this hypocritical bullshit of a nation faces justice, they had better not complain (although this might be a losing battle because, well these people will bitch and whine about absolutely everything)
 

Mr T

Senior Member
And yet another day that I am very convinced that while the USA accuses China of human rights abuses, the USA is busy doing the same but worse and even more crazy
You're conflating two different things - random crimes and government-led policy.

I'm happy to be corrected, but I can't remember when a government criticised China for its domestic crime situation, except maybe when its citizens were victims of a serious crime. Which is often a standard response. NGOs may criticise the CCP for something like the lack of rape convictions/lack of seriousness given to rape, but they do that for lots of countries including first world states too.

In contrast the vast majority of criticisms of the CCP is of the policies it brings in. So unless you're going to tell me that the Biden administration paid or ordered this homeless man to attack the woman, I have no idea why you've made the comparison.
while they can never provide any real evidence that China has done such things
Most of the things the CCP does is fairly open or it admits later and blames on "rogue officials". E.g. organ harvesting of prisoners. For years the CCP denied it happened at all. Same with the Zhengzhou tunnel flooding, the CCP refused to allow discussion of how many people died, and it was fairly obvious the death toll was being covered up. National media reporting quickly shifted from the dead/victims to rescue and clean up efforts. Now the attention has moved on, the CCP has punished "local officials" for hiding the death count, when in reality central Party members had to be complicit in ensuring traditional and social media did not focus on the issue, deletion of comments on dodgy stuff like the blacked out buses that were obviously being used to hide the number of dead bodies being removed from the tunnel, etc.

The CCP's policies on Hong Kong are also completely open. It just boils down to whether a person thinks the removal of democratic and civil rights is justified or not.

The biggest area of dispute is Xinjiang. In this particular instance the CCP totally denies genocide and is unlikely to ever say it committed it. However, it also has changed its story. Originally it denied there were any mass detention centres. When given the satellite evidence it said "oh, those camps. No, they aren't detention camps, they're education and training centres with mass dormitaries and compulsory attendance".

Other parts of the CCP's policies are open, such as the stationing of non-Uighur CCP members in Uighur households, which does not appear to be a voluntary measure and happens whether Uighurs want it or not. Again, you may think it's a great idea, other people will say it's a gross breach of Uighurs' personal/human rights.
 

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
criticisms of the CCP is of the policies
Most of the things the CCP does is fairly open
For years the CCP denied
the CCP refused to allow discussion
the CCP has punished
The CCP's policies on Hong Kong
the CCP totally denies genocide
Other parts of the CCP's policies are open,
stationing of non-Uighur CCP members
What's up with your obsession with "CCP" when it is actually called "CPC"? Its impressive how you keep writing the wrong name every time.

Your wording is similar to the US Congress reports when talking about China. Are you related with them?..
 

ansy1968

Brigadier
Registered Member
You're conflating two different things - random crimes and government-led policy.

I'm happy to be corrected, but I've never heard a government criticse China for its domestic crime situation, except maybe when its citizens were victims of a serious crime. Which is often a standard response..

In contrast the vast majority of criticisms of the CCP is of the policies it brings in. So unless you're going to tell me that the Biden administration paid or ordered this homeless man to attack the woman, I have no idea why you've made the comparison.

Most of the things the CCP does is fairly open or it admits later and blames on "rogue officials". E.g. organ harvesting of prisoners. For years the CCP denied it happened at all. Same with the Zhengzhou tunnel flooding, the CCP refused to allow discussion of how many people died, and it was fairly obvious the death toll was being covered up. National media reporting quickly shifted from the dead/victims to rescue and clean up efforts. Now the attention has moved on, the CCP has punished "local officials" for hiding the death count, when in reality central Party members had to be complicit in ensuring traditional and social media did not focus on the issue, deletion of comments on dodgy stuff like the blacked out buses that were obviously being used to hide the number of dead bodies being removed from the tunnel, etc.

The CCP's policies on Hong Kong are also completely open. It just boils down to whether a person thinks the removal of democratic and civil rights is justified or not.

The biggest area of dispute is Xinjiang. In this particular instance the CCP totally denies genocide and is unlikely to ever say it committed it. However, it also has changed its story. Originally it denied there were any mass detention centres. When given the satellite evidence it said "oh, those camps. No, they aren't detention camps, they're education and training centres with mass dormitaries and compulsory attendance". Other parts of the CCP's policies are open, such as the stationing of non-Uighur CCP members in Uighur households, which does not appear to be a voluntary measure and happens whether Uighurs want it or not.
@Mr T bro sorry You're dead wrong , there is to many to mentioned, since I lived in the Philippine I gave you one example and please google for more details, the Balangiga Massacre, I'm a Hua Qiao and I'm a proud Filipino. This event should be commemorate BUT isn't due to unwanted US interference. And since you mentioned that China may condone violence thru state policy, I want you to know What Gen Jacob Smith orders are from an American sources.

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American soldiers are lined up as a firing squad facing Filipino children. Cartoon is addressing the Balangiga Affair and Massacre. Caption: Criminals because ...

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I want no prisoners. I wish you to kill and burn; the more you kill and burn, the better it will please me... The interior of Samar must be made a howling wilderness...
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— Gen. Jacob H. Smith


The subsequent retaliation by American troops resulted in the killing of 2000–3000 Filipinos on Samar. The heavy-handed reprisal earned a court-martial for Gen. Jacob H. Smith, who had ordered the killing of everyone ten years old and over. Reprimanded but not formally punished, Smith was forced into retirement from the service because of his conduct. The attack and the subsequent retaliation remains one of the longest-running and most controversial issues between the Philippines and the United States. Conflicting records from both American and Filipino historians have confused the issue. Demands for the return of the bells of the church at Balangiga, taken by the Americans as war booty and collectively known as the Balangiga bells, remain an outstanding issue of contention related to the war. One church bell remains in the possession of the 9th Infantry Regiment at their base in Camp Red Cloud, South Korea, while two others are on a former base of the 11th Infantry Regiment at F.E. Warren Air Force Base in Cheyenne, Wyoming. According to some nationalist Filipino historians, the true "Balangiga massacre" was the subsequent American retaliation against the Samar population.​



Yup Killing Children is a nice way to win a war, such a hypocritical policy is why we hate the Americans, and they had the audacity to teach us how to behave and be more civilized, FXXK THEM!
 
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