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Mr T

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@Mr T bro sorry You're dead wrong , there is to many to mentioned, since I lived in the Philippine I gave you one example and please google for more details, the Balangiga Massacre, I'm a Hua Qiao and I'm a proud Filipino. This event should be commemorate BUT isn't due to unwanted US interference. And since you mentioned that China may condone violence thru state policy, I want you to know What Gen Jacob Smith orders are from an American sources.
Hi. Just to be clear, we're talking about criticism of current government policies, not events from more than a century ago.

No reasonable person would claim that because a country did a bad thing at some point in history, neither its government nor citizens may ever criticise contemporary events somewhere else in the world, regardless of how much time has passed.

After all, we can't change the past, we can only modify current and future behaviour.
 

ansy1968

Brigadier
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Hi. Just to be clear, we're talking about criticism of current government policies, not events from more than a century ago.

No reasonable person would claim that because a country did a bad thing at some point in history, neither its government nor citizens may ever criticise contemporary events somewhere else in the world, regardless of how much time has passed.
@Mr T Ohh come bro, what about the recent Syrian attack that kills 4 children? and the Afghanistan drone attack that kill an Afghan family again killing children. Like my previous post Killing Children is what Makes America Great Again.
After all, we can't change the past, we can only modify current and future behaviour.
Bro that's the problem, they haven't learn and to criticized other nation is Hubris at best. It's okay to have a healthy constructive criticism BUT if the charges are malicious then we may disagree. I wish that the US and its Australian interloper leave this region, I've enough of their self righteousness bordering on Arrogance. We had a checkered history because of them and we are happy to see a Rising China balancing them out.
 
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ansy1968

Brigadier
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Damn when did Mr T resurrect from the dead?
@Crang bro it's all good, we need different view to have a nice discussion and I'm sorry for my outburst, under American occupation there are a lot of atrocity being done that are swept under the rug. One of them is the insurrection war in Mindanao that become the first modern Jihad war, The Muslim Mindanaoan will not forget and we are lucky to have Duterte as President to smooth things out and the other one is being involved in WW2, We should not be the target of Japanese attack IF the American weren't here, the aftermath we are force to pay for our reconstruction by collateralizing our Natural resources. It's slavery!!!
 

tygyg1111

Captain
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You're conflating two different things - random crimes and government-led policy.

I'm happy to be corrected, but I can't remember when a government criticised China for its domestic crime situation, except maybe when its citizens were victims of a serious crime. Which is often a standard response. NGOs may criticise the CCP for something like the lack of rape convictions/lack of seriousness given to rape, but they do that for lots of countries including first world states too.

In contrast the vast majority of criticisms of the CCP is of the policies it brings in. So unless you're going to tell me that the Biden administration paid or ordered this homeless man to attack the woman, I have no idea why you've made the comparison.

Most of the things the CCP does is fairly open or it admits later and blames on "rogue officials". E.g. organ harvesting of prisoners. For years the CCP denied it happened at all. Same with the Zhengzhou tunnel flooding, the CCP refused to allow discussion of how many people died, and it was fairly obvious the death toll was being covered up. National media reporting quickly shifted from the dead/victims to rescue and clean up efforts. Now the attention has moved on, the CCP has punished "local officials" for hiding the death count, when in reality central Party members had to be complicit in ensuring traditional and social media did not focus on the issue, deletion of comments on dodgy stuff like the blacked out buses that were obviously being used to hide the number of dead bodies being removed from the tunnel, etc.

The CCP's policies on Hong Kong are also completely open. It just boils down to whether a person thinks the removal of democratic and civil rights is justified or not.

The biggest area of dispute is Xinjiang. In this particular instance the CCP totally denies genocide and is unlikely to ever say it committed it. However, it also has changed its story. Originally it denied there were any mass detention centres. When given the satellite evidence it said "oh, those camps. No, they aren't detention camps, they're education and training centres with mass dormitaries and compulsory attendance".

Other parts of the CCP's policies are open, such as the stationing of non-Uighur CCP members in Uighur households, which does not appear to be a voluntary measure and happens whether Uighurs want it or not. Again, you may think it's a great idea, other people will say it's a gross breach of Uighurs' personal/human rights.
To quote someone who has already caused much anguish to butthurt Americans: cry ab it
 

New China tariff probe among options considered by Biden -U.S. Chamber​

The Biden administration is considering a new China tariff probe if talks fail to persuade Beijing to follow through on promised purchases of U.S. goods, energy and services, officials from the largest U.S. business lobbying group said on Wednesday.

The administration is also considering other options, including working more closely with U.S. allies to present a united front to China in demanding a level playing field for international firms, Myron Brilliant, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce's head of international affairs, told reporters.

U.S. trade data on Tuesday
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in China's commitment to increase U.S. purchases under former U.S. president Donald Trump's "Phase 1" trade deal, implemented two years ago.

China met less than 60% of its purchasing goal, failing to make good on its promise to increase U.S. purchases by $200 billion above 2017 levels during 2020 and 2021 - a two-year period disrupted by the COVID-19 pandemic and supply chain bottlenecks.

Asked about the "Phase 1" deal on Thursday, China's commerce ministry spokesman Gao Feng said the United States should cancel tariffs on China in order to create a favorable environment for trade cooperation.

Brilliant said the Chamber supports the Biden administration's talks with Chinese officials to hold them to the Phase 1 commitments.

"But should those talks not succeed in meeting the terms of the agreement, then I do think there are vehicles by which the administration can consider taking further action," Brilliant said.

"The administration is considering a range of options, and we're not endorsing any of these options at this time, that could include obviously a 301 action and issues like that."

The Trump administration used Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974, a statute aimed at combating trade partners' unfair practices, to launch tariffs on hundreds of billions of dollars in Chinese imports in 2018 and 2019.

A new Section 301 probe could take a year before any new tariffs or other trade actions are recommended.


Brilliant said that based on his consultations with the administration, any actions would not involve tariffs in the short term.

"They recognize that the tariffs in place are putting pressure on American companies and therefore American workers, and they need to address that piece, despite the challenges presented by China's lack of enforcement of the Phase 1 deal,"

John Murphy, who directs trade policy advocacy for the Chamber, said that pressure was mounting from industry for a more robust tariff exclusion process for Chinese goods than the
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proposed by USTR.


A spokesperson for the U.S. Trade Representative's office could not immediately be reached for comment. In announcing her
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last October, top U.S. trade negotiator Katherine Tai did not rule out new tariff action.

Brilliant said that any actions that the Biden administration takes should be done in consultation with the business community and with U.S. allies.

"Any action against China that isn't done in a multilateral way, isn't worked out with Europe and with our friends in Asia, will not be as productive," he said.

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LET'S GO BRANDON
 

NiuBiDaRen

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@Crang bro it's all good, we need different view to have a nice discussion and I'm sorry for my outburst, under American occupation there are a lot of atrocity being done that are swept under the rug. One of them is the insurrection war in Mindanao that become the first modern Jihad war, The Muslim Mindanaoan will not forget and we are lucky to have Duterte as President to smooth things out and the other one is being involved in WW2, We should not be the target of Japanese attack IF the American weren't here, the aftermath we are force to pay for our reconstruction by collateralizing our Natural resources. It's slavery!!!
I miss the days when we could summon our godfather @Gatekeeper to protect the gates of SDF
 

FairAndUnbiased

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@Crang bro it's all good, we need different view to have a nice discussion
This isn't discussion because discussion means both sides engage in good faith, but here he uses unverifiable social media rumors while demanding everyone else provide only proven historical facts or they're liars, a much higher burden of proof. The asymmetrical burden of proof is a mental burden on the other side and is designed to wear them out, make them tired, and eventually have his view be the sole one remaining by default by volume. This is a common tactic.
 

Appix

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Congress Proposes $500 Million for Negative News Coverage of China​

The effort to counter China’s ‘malign influence’ would fund negative coverage of China’s Belt and Road Initiative—while also beefing up the U.S.’s international lending.

Meant to “combat Chinese disinformation,” the bill would direct funding to the U.S. Agency for Global Media, a U.S.-run foreign media service, as well as local outlets and programs to train foreign journalists.

For example, the Senate bill aims to crowd out Chinese investment in developing countries, and also encourages criticism of China’s projects in those markets.

The Senate bill aims to produce more anti-China media for regions where it says the Chinese Communist Party and other rivals are promoting “manipulated media markets.” It notes that the sponsored news will be “independent.”

One subtitle of USICA creates a “Countering Chinese Influence Fund” totaling $1.5 billion over a five-year period, with more than a third of funds aimed at media outlets.

The push to counter China, the subtitle explains, should “raise awareness of and increase transparency regarding the negative impact of activities related to the Belt and Road Initiative.” It should also urge “support for market-based alternatives in key economic sectors, such as digital economy, energy, and infrastructure.”

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Abominable

Major
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Hi. Just to be clear, we're talking about criticism of current government policies, not events from more than a century ago.

No reasonable person would claim that because a country did a bad thing at some point in history, neither its government nor citizens may ever criticise contemporary events somewhere else in the world, regardless of how much time has passed.

After all, we can't change the past, we can only modify current and future behaviour.
The policies of western governments has effects that lasts to this day. Look at Africa, South America, the undeveloped parts of Asia.
 
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