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solarz said:

Like @Equation mentioned, you have to look at who did the survey. Surveys are not published to inform the public, they are published in order to influence public opinion.

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I think everyone also need to look at this through the social-economic lens. China and SK has significant overlap in industry and technology. South Koreans are aware that it could be a zero-sum game for them, especially comparing to a country the size of China. Pressure are already high enough for South Koreans living in a country where a few elites control everything. US on the other hand is simply so behind on the same fields that there is no competition. This is not going to change unless US somehow suddenly becomes a champion in semiconductors, displays, shipbuilding, small/midsize consumer cars, infrastructure, etc.

Bellum_Romanum said:

Stavridis’ scenario is not far-fetched. Edward Luttwak, an estimable historian and military consultant, tweeted on January 19: “Every day I read fanciful China war scenarios. Some ignore the nuclear inhibition that protects vulnerable US aircraft carriers.”

By “nuclear inhibition,” Luttwak apparently means that if China were to sink a US fleet carrier, the United States would retaliate with nuclear weapons. Luttwak wrote a book-length study on China in 2013 for the Pentagon’s Office of Net Assessment, for which I also consulted at the time.

The madness of Luttwak’s logic requires a brief pause and a deep breath to take in: He concedes that China has the capacity to destroy American ships, including carriers, with its massed missile forces, but asserts that China would refrain to do so out of fear of American nuclear retaliation.

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When China reached 1000 nukes by 2030 or sooner, i wonder if this guy still think the same way

People seem to be seeing which way the wind is blowing.

Bellum_Romanum said:

Why has the relationship between S.Korean public turned sour with China. I wonder what was China’s relationship with S.Korea prior to the THAAD issue souring the Sino-SK relationship.

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I think I've seen this before.

1. Try to destabilize the central government directly is the #1 goal. Gorbachev, nuff said.

2. But if they can't, they destabilize the peripheral regions of the target country first. This is what happened with in the mid and late 1980's with the Baltic mass treason, the Azerbaijan riots, etc. aided by Mikhail G, who purged the ideologically loyal and replaced them with foreign puppets.

3. But if they can't do that, they'll nibble away at the states along the edge, such as East Germany, Poland, etc.

Of course any commonalities are mere coincidences...

Bellum_Romanum said:

Stavridis’ scenario is not far-fetched. Edward Luttwak, an estimable historian and military consultant, tweeted on January 19: “Every day I read fanciful China war scenarios. Some ignore the nuclear inhibition that protects vulnerable US aircraft carriers.”

By “nuclear inhibition,” Luttwak apparently means that if China were to sink a US fleet carrier, the United States would retaliate with nuclear weapons. Luttwak wrote a book-length study on China in 2013 for the Pentagon’s Office of Net Assessment, for which I also consulted at the time.

The madness of Luttwak’s logic requires a brief pause and a deep breath to take in: He concedes that China has the capacity to destroy American ships, including carriers, with its massed missile forces, but asserts that China would refrain to do so out of fear of American nuclear retaliation.

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Eddy here is a well known racist, so there's little use arguing with him. We are rapidly reaching the limits of dialogue at this point.

Bellum_Romanum said:

Stavridis’ scenario is not far-fetched. Edward Luttwak, an estimable historian and military consultant, tweeted on January 19: “Every day I read fanciful China war scenarios. Some ignore the nuclear inhibition that protects vulnerable US aircraft carriers.”

By “nuclear inhibition,” Luttwak apparently means that if China were to sink a US fleet carrier, the United States would retaliate with nuclear weapons. Luttwak wrote a book-length study on China in 2013 for the Pentagon’s Office of Net Assessment, for which I also consulted at the time.

The madness of Luttwak’s logic requires a brief pause and a deep breath to take in: He concedes that China has the capacity to destroy American ships, including carriers, with its massed missile forces, but asserts that China would refrain to do so out of fear of American nuclear retaliation.

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I am sure american generals and admirals they understand the unacknowledged reality, that once a major nuclear power launched a first strike against another nuclear power, everyone else will launch against everyone irrespective of whether they are actually involved or not.

This is the true meaning of MAD, so if any american generals threatening nuclear strike against Chinese cities in response of PLAN sinking of usn carriers, you know that its just a bluff, nothing more

South Korea is in the same boat as Taiwan in which the major powers of the world all look to be not dependent on foreign countries for advanced technology which includes them. Biden just announced a deal with Intel to develop domestic chips. Who are they going to sell to when that happens especially since China will be a threat to what international markets left that the US says they can sell to. Their profits are going to shrink. Less money for research and development. People like in politics tend to vote for the incumbent because the one you know is better than the one you don't know. The US is the established power in the world but like I said before in here when the US loses more of its power, gradually or catastrophically, and China gets richer, all these countries are going to start sucking up to China like they do to the US because it comes down to is who has the money. Then you have religion. God favors the West. That's why they're rich. So what happens when China is richer than they are? How are they going to explain that? Why do all right-wingers of the Western world hate China. It's that nightmare scenario they can't explain without acknowledging that their religion is a lie. So what do they want? They have to invade and do to China what they scare people and claim that's what China is going to do to them. Invasion, takeover , and oppression is what has to happen for them to rewrite China's history to align it with Christianity. It's like Christians claiming humans and dinosaurs existed at the same time because they can't explain dinosaurs without throwing Christianity under the bus.

KYli said:

Both Japan and SK became more anti-China after China became more and more wealthy. Same thing can be said about HK and Taiwan. It is the fear that East Asia restored back to pre-imperial years when China is dominated power. Until China leapfrogged them in every area, they would continue bitching about China. Some day, they would accept the fact that China is the dominated power and tried to curry favor with China. Until then, they would complain and try to demonize China to soothe their inferior complex.

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That is why Korea k-pop, esports and shipbuilding need to be contained. These people think they are superior with these industries.

All these supposedly smart people but somehow they believe that "race is not supposed to matter in the US". If only they had ever bothered to read a history book about America's abuses of people of different race...

This will always be true:
"There's a sucker born every minute"

Tyler said:

That is why Korea k-pop, esports and shipbuilding need to be contained. These people think they are superior with these industries.

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So long as north korea exist, south korea is contained just fine
Thats why the prospect of korean unification for the next 100 years is nil