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Diplomatic rapture always happens on the entire western to middle section of Eurasia example the fallout between Turkey and Egypt-KSA-UAE-GCC was bigger then the diplomatic fallout between Turkey-US or GCC-Qatar.

But they are mostly short-stint fallouts and patching up happens always after few hours to months sometimes right now the Turkey-GCC has patched up again including Turkey-US it has also patched up again. The same with Turkey-China they had a diplomatic back in around 2016-ish but that was on a shorter period then the others. The worst of them was the Turkey-Egypt or Turkey-KSA where Erdogan was releasing bits and piece on MBS debacle in the Saudi Embassy in Turkey and the reason why it got so much media attention was due to Erdogan and nobody thought a comeback from that was possible after such a fallout but they have slowly patched up again..

This happens all the time there was even a much lesser fallout between Pakistan and Turkey that many didn't notice back when IEA stormed Kabul and demanded their exit from the airport but that was resolved after a month or 2.

If you are from these parts it is completely normal to go thru diplomatic raptures from time to time example the reason Morocco-Spain diplomatic rapture which resolved it happens all the time even Algeria and Turkey had a rapture due to Turkey selling TB2s to Morocco which is also resolved now..

Turkey and Germany have the best relations but even they have had raptures here and there which has always been patched up again. Hungary and the EU has currently a minor rapture etc etc. US and Pakistan on and off etc etc or France-UK recent rapture or even France-Australia. Diplomatic rapture occurs all the time but it is mainly resolved..

But rivalries can't be resolved such as cold wars like the one we are going thru right now for world hegemony

Arnies said:

I didn't know China is uncomfortable with Turkey due to their stance on Xinjiang Besides Turkey has stopped that years ago when they found out it was a ploy to demonize china aka propaganda but Turkey was involved in that media debacle

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Stopped? In August 2020 at the UN, for the first time, Turkey joined the West to criticise China for its treatment of the Uighurs.

xypher said:

The thing with Turkey is that Erdogan is trying to play all sides - buys military equipment from Russia thus getting on the US nerves, then opposes Russia in Syria disallowing any buildup of goodwill, flip-flops on Xinjiang, the whole Turan thing, etc. As a result, neither the West, Russia nor China really trust Turkey and view them with some level of suspicion.

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That's a dangerous game. Countries (in various forms) are supposed to last hundreds and thousands of years.
This strategy of having no "true" friends that Erdogan is pursuing is extremely risky.
One wrong step and you will be left facing the abyss with noone bothering to help you

Things might have been looking rosy in the past but this was because the US was still the top dog who "ensured peace" but which was also distracted in various fronts. With heightened tensions, China becoming a quasi-Superpower, the "international order" breaking down, if Turkey makes a single mistake then it is curtains for it.
It has great ambitions but my feeling is that it has overplayed its hand too early

It should had waited until (at the earliest) 2025 to make its move

xypher said:

thingy is also a hidden warning for Erdogan that the same can easily happen to him but he won't have any allies to bail him out.

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Turkey has plenty of allies and assured.. Nobdoy can rest assured..

t2contra said:

Stopped? In August 2020 at the UN..

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It was initially that period there was a political campaign to demonize China.. Because the US wanted to us various islamic world against China in order to expand there trade block and it came with the trade wars

Overbom said:

That's a dangerous game. Countries (in various forms) are supposed to last hundreds and thousands of years.
This strategy of having no "true" friends that Erdogan is pursuing is extremely risky.
One wrong step and you will be left facing the abyss with noone bothering to help you

Things might have been looking rosy in the past but this was because the US was still the top dog who "ensured peace" but which was also distracted in various fronts. With heightened tensions, China becoming a quasi-Superpower, the "international order" breaking down, if Turkey makes a single mistake then it is curtains for it.
It has great ambitions but my feeling is that it has overplayed its hand too early

It should had waited until (at the earliest) 2025 to make its move

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Is this some Quasi delulu.. Who can pull the curtains on Turkey is the question. Turkey has plenty of allies rest assured and even has nuclear sharing policy with NATO and even has a strong military relations with Pakistan. Turkey is solidly self-confident.. anybody coming her way will be smashed sideways and front-ways..

Arnies said:

Turkey has plenty of allies and assured.. Nobdoy can rest assured..


It was initially that period there was a political campaign to demonize China.. Because the US wanted to us various islamic world against China in order to expand there trade block and it came with the trade wars

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That was a scant five months ago and you think Turkey would flip back to China's side again? For how along?

Arnies said:

I didn't know China is uncomfortable with Turkey due to their stance on Xinjiang Besides Turkey has stopped that years ago when they found out it was a ploy to demonize china aka propaganda but Turkey was involved in that media debacle

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You mean Turkey was merely fooled by the western ploy? Turkey under Erdogan actively trafficked Chinese Uyghurs to Syria to be trained as terrorist fighters. The Turkish FM issued falsified Turkish passport for the trafficking. You think those terrorists will stay in Syria for ever? You think Turkey did not plan for their return to Xinjiang? You think it is just some individuals in the Turkish FM made some authentic fake passport?

Is Erdogan so stupid and incompetent to let these things happen under his nose?

If Turkey stopped all these act years ago, why did Wang Yi publicly open the old wound yesterday while his Turkish counterpart remained silence?

The only conclusion is that China made a veiled warning about Turkey's continuing doing the same thing as in Xinjiang in neighbouring Central Asia (the pan Turkic alliance is an extreme annoyance to both China and Russia).

t2contra said:

That was a scant five months ago and you think Turkey would flip back to China's side again? For how along?

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Haven't you noticed the campaign stopped with the trade wars it was to weaken china and strengthen the US and also to split Pakistan-China.. It was a deliberate spamming campaign..

Why would they flip back on billions of trade

t2contra said:

That was a scant five months ago and you think Turkey would flip back to China's side again? For how along?

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The guy would flip flop, as he showed he is stupid enough to lower the Turkish interest rates, causing the Turkish currency to deflate rapidly.

taxiya said:

You mean Turkey was merely fooled by the western ploy? Turkey under Erdogan actively trafficked Chinese Uyghurs to Syria to be trained as terrorist fighters. The Turkish FM issued falsified Turkish passport for the trafficking. You think those terrorists will stay in Syria for ever? You think Turkey did not plan for their return to Xinjiang? You think it is just some individuals in the Turkish FM made some authentic fake passport?

Is Erdogan so stupid and incompetent to let these things happen under his nose?

If Turkey stopped all these act years ago, why did Wang Yi publicly open the old wound yesterday?

The only conclusion is that China made a veiled warning about Turkey's continuing doing the same thing as in Xinjiang in neighbouring Central Asia (the pan Turkic alliance is an extreme annoyance to both China and Russia).

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They came by themselves... This is just empty allegations and they came even before Turkey was involved in Syria and in the beginning phase. Besides why is china concerned by 8mil minority within China that is 1.5bil.. These leaving China has no political designs inside China. That is like a single drop of water in the ocean comparison.

But it was the so-called liberals who are in the west paid by the US to create a separatist movement outside china ala tibetans blue-print like Dalai lama but not the ones leaving china by their own accord. There are more of them living today in KSA, UAE, Malaysia, US, Canada etc etc.. People just move around all the time.

I even fail to see why such a small insignificiant minority is a topic.. It is nothing to overexaggerate..