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FangYuan

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Putin has written off Soviet debt to many countries. Not that Russians hate money, but because those countries are insolvent. The Soviet Union at its peak was very generous and never imagined that someday it would fall to hell.

In recent years, China has lent money to many countries. And that leads to economic and political troubles. The West does not miss the opportunity to insult China. China's image became ugly because of the concept of "debt trap". The sad thing is that many countries borrow money from China, then do not want to repay the debt and blame China

China should limit lending, and use that money to buy gold and store rare metals.

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xypher

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Putin has written off Soviet debt to many countries. Not that Russians hate money, but because those countries are insolvent. The Soviet Union at its peak was very generous and never imagined that someday it would fall to hell.
It was not all about generosity - Russia has taken the responsibility for Soviet foreign debt in exchange for ownership of all Soviet foreign assets (mainly real estate) and some military equipment, so it was essentially a trade. Similarly, writing off small old debts is a way to improve foreign relations and, sometimes, a way to create new export markets when they give loans to buy Russian military equipment & then write them off.

The article you cited also peddles blatant fake news:
Unable to repay a US$1.4 billion loan for a port construction in the south, Sri Lanka was forced to lease out the facility to a Chinese company for 99 years in 2017.
Sri Lanka was not forced by anyone, it was their initiative to pay off IMF debts. Therefore, the article is lying and I am thinking that it is not a legitimate news site but some shitty Indian fake news propaganda crap.
 

gelgoog

Lieutenant General
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I think the investment policy is working properly. And when countries like Sri Lanka can't pay then the Chinese company can simply take back the asset for a couple decades more. The US makes a big deal of this but similar deals happen for hydroelectric plants all the time for example.
 

FangYuan

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It was not all about generosity - Russia has taken the responsibility for Soviet foreign debt in exchange for ownership of all Soviet foreign assets (mainly real estate) and some military equipment, so it was essentially a trade. Similarly, writing off small old debts is a way to improve foreign relations and, sometimes, a way to create new export markets when they give loans to buy Russian military equipment & then write them off.

1. So you think it brings a one-way benefits to the Russians and every Russians are happy with debt removal for other countries?

The article you cited also peddles blatant fake news:

Sri Lanka was not forced by anyone, it was their initiative to pay off IMF debts. Therefore, the article is lying and I am thinking that it is not a legitimate news site but some shitty Indian fake news propaganda crap.

2. Real or fake, the West does not care. They need a reason and opportunity to insult China.. If the truth is higher than all, there will never be problems such as "genocide" or "slave labor" ....You don't believe it. That doesn't mean everyone and every country are like you

Lending money, bringing too much economic and political risks.
 

Topazchen

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The US's China policy is all about racism and white supremacy. When you look at Russia and Ukraine and China and it's neighbors, the US sees China as a greater threat to peace and stability. Is China amassing troops anywhere on the border with its neighbors ready to attack and invade? No. Not even Taiwan. China is the greater threat... to a racist. What alarms the West about China is China is about to end Western supremacy on this planet and there are a lot of countries that placed their bets on the US and they see they're about to lose it all big time. Is it not fear that China will invade and oppress them that scares them the most. It is simply they're afraid China will do to them in the future what they're doing to China and the rest of the world right now. Can you imagine what if China organized world sanctions on the US for unarmed black men being killed by US police? That will outrage Americans but when they do it to other countries, it's as normal as breathing air. It's those kind of disparities that establishes their racist world order. It's not a crime to compete and win against them but it is to a racist. When they were winning, they could hide their racist beliefs behind fair competition because no one was a threat to them. Now others are outcompeting them and all of the sudden everything they claim they're for like democracy and free market capitalism they're questioning themselves.

The US built a ladder to the top of success. They encourage other countries to climb their ladder to success not because they want everyone to be as successful as they are but because it gives them control of who gets to climb up further on their ladder. They can whisper to a country below them to do its dirty work and kick any country the US doesn't like down the ladder for them. That ladder is crowded and getting past other countries on that ladder is arduous and might inspire anger and jealousy because they see they're being climbed over and being cut in line and that's what that ladder is designed to do. It is designed to make sure everyone else fights against one another for their place on that ladder so no attention is paid to those above. But where's China? China is over there building its own ladder to the top. And everyone is seeing China pass them by with ease. Now some countries at the bottom of the US's ladder see that and they can easily jump off the US ladder and climb on China's ladder or they start building their own. The US sees that and gets angry because now it's not in control of those countries ascent and Americans hate China because it gave other countries other ideas. But then there are those countries that spent time and resources climbing up the US's ladder and they're not climbing down to start over but they seethe with envy that China has surpassed them.
 

Overbom

Brigadier
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Spoiler alert, EU won't do anything for Lithuania


"Here is what I hear from European national security officials:

If Germany and France will not stand up for Lithuania and will now really tell China to stop blackmailing this EU member state, then:

1) DE + FR will not be trusted as real allies

2) EU China policy will be a joke"

 

xypher

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1. So you think it brings a one-way benefits to the Russians and every Russians are happy with debt removal for other countries?
All I said is that there was no generosity but business, just like everywhere. Where did I say about "one-way" benefits to Russians? Point it out for me.
 

FangYuan

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All I said is that there was no generosity but business, just like everywhere. Where did I say about "one-way" benefits to Russians? Point it out for me.

It was not all about generosity - Russia has taken the responsibility for Soviet foreign debt in exchange for ownership of all Soviet foreign assets (mainly real estate) and some military equipment, so it was essentially a trade. Similarly, writing off small old debts is a way to improve foreign relations and, sometimes, a way to create new export markets when they give loans to buy Russian military equipment & then write them off.
 

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
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1. So you think it brings a one-way benefits to the Russians and every Russians are happy with debt removal for other countries?



2. Real or fake, the West does not care. They need a reason and opportunity to insult China.. If the truth is higher than all, there will never be problems such as "genocide" or "slave labor" ....You don't believe it. That doesn't mean everyone and every country are like you

Lending money, bringing too much economic and political risks.
There's risks but there's also reward/windfall that comes with lending transactions. There's not a single policy or set of policies being made by China that doesn't carry any political or geopolitical risks but so far the benefits have more than make up for it.

If any countries let alone China follows your loopy ideas on trade and economy all to avoid being vilified, criticized by your rivals then you might as well give up your aspirations for further development and accept the artificial limit and barriers set up by your geopolitical opponents.

I don't know where you have been and what planet you're on but ever since China’s meteoric rise economically, politically, and militarily these threat perceptions began more pointed and even cranked up to the tenth degree. If China was just a marginal power at best then all these noise about her wouldn't even be this magnified or have to be conjured up for propaganda.

Success breeds contempt and jealousy it's the same for any of us individuals that will taste any measure of extraordinary success. These phenomenon don't end when it comes to state to state situation.
 
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