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9dashline

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Yup, that is why the UAE cancelled their F-35 contract so that they did not have to rip out their Huawei gear in their network, and then go buy those Rafales.

That is the only reason why relations between France and the United States are back on track. The French felt vindicated, that they are still a playa!
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Overbom

Brigadier
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Why has the Army and the internal security of this country fell so quickly and are seemingly overwhelmed from the "peaceful protesters."
Soldiers are humans as well. Imagine waking up, paid little, and then seeing that overnight your fuel prices have doubled while seeing your superior/boss and other rich people enjoying life and laughing at the poor

Its not like they are robots. Protesters went into the streets for a valid reason, there is no way they would obey orders and turn their weapons against the protesters who might also include their families/friends.

Colour revolutions need a fertile ground for them to happen. It a cultural, economic, society, political (corrupt) thing. When the country is doing poorly on all of the above then it is very easy for things to spiral out of control.

After all, its not like the protesters randomly decided to go to the streets. It is only because this stupid government decided to double fuel prices in just a single day

Even in France when they were talking about slightly increasing fuel taxes, the French went out to the streets and torched everything lol. And that's France we are talking about, a rich developed country

@Overbom is it me or does it appear that these protesters are more than keen on using violence to achieve whatever goal(s) they have in mind and in so far have been successful in pacifying some elements of the Army. One would think that in any firefight, the Army personnel will always almost come out on tip by the virtue of their training and discipline. Yet, what I have seen so far based on a few tidbit of information coming out of twitter, the reverse seems to be the case.
Check out my above comment for the Army. Soldiers are getting paid little, while their bosses are rich. Their families might also be poor which are directly affected by fuel increases. Corruption everywhere. Lack of discipline.

So what are these soldiers are asked to protect? The oligarchy which is siphoning money out of the poor? Who are pocketing profits from gas price increases while the poor need to survive by the scraps?

TLDR: This is mostly a collapse from within. The CIA is merely pushing here and there a bit, and the rest is on autopilot. Good lesson for other countries to have internal affairs sorted out. Ah yes, as I said in another post, corruption kills a country
 

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
Registered Member
Soldiers are humans as well. Imagine waking up, paid little, and then seeing that overnight your fuel prices have doubled while seeing your superior/boss and other rich people enjoying life and laughing at the poor

Its not like they are robots. Protesters went into the streets for a valid reason, there is no way they would obey orders and turn their weapons against the protesters who might also include their families/friends.

Colour revolutions need a fertile ground for them to happen. It a cultural, economic, society, political (corrupt) thing. When the country is doing poorly on all of the above then it is very easy for things to spiral out of control.

After all, its not like the protesters randomly decided to go to the streets. It is only because this stupid government decided to double fuel prices in just a single day

Even in France when they were talking about slightly increasing fuel taxes, the French went out to the streets and torched everything lol. And that's France we are talking about, a rich developed country


Check out my above comment for the Army. Soldiers are getting paid little, while their bosses are rich. Their families might also be poor which are directly affected by fuel increases. Corruption everywhere. Lack of discipline.

So what are these soldiers are asked to protect? The oligarchy which is siphoning money out of the poor? Who are pocketing profits from gas price increases while the poor need to survive by the scraps?

TLDR: This is mostly a collapse from within. The CIA is merely pushing here and there a bit, and the rest is on autopilot. Good lesson for other countries to have internal affairs sorted out. Ah yes, as I said in another post, corruption kills a country
Excellent response. Good governance is key. Democracy or autocracy if the end result is the same then the kind of mess we're witnessing is the likely outcome.
 
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