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BlackWindMnt said:

China investing 200 billion dollar in Africa is actually a smart move. Europe's power comes from the fact they had access to cheaper resources from Africa and their other colonies.

There is this example of the global chocolate market. The global chocolate market is worth $150 billion. West African nations provide 70% of the resources and only get like 6 billion for it. Europe and US food companies can make $105 billion which is 70% of 150 billion from 6 billion. Increasing the value of cacao beans by almost 18 times. Imaging the west losing this market to Asian and African brands because chine invested in regional chocolate production. Thats 100 billion less revenue that can taxed and use to pay for military adventures by the west.

This China eating away at the wests bottom line. China become more of a consumer market might help Africa with this by importing African and Asian chocolate.

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China will never replace those western import since chocolate is not on the menu of most Chinese So it is pipe dream The market is 150 billion but how much profit out of it after deduction of labor, transport, processing cost maybe not much ?

Those resources far away from mainland China does not make sense since they are vulnerable to blockade and interdiction in time of war . Another thing investing in instable government is risky case in point Guinea iron mine China pour in billion of dollar and sign in an agreement with previous government and suddenly the western power instigate coup d'etat Puff the Chinese investment is now in question. So with just sleigh of hand China will loose billion of dollar if the general decide to expropriate the new iron mine. I can understand China invest railway in Laos it make sense but Africa ? They will just lost their shirt their

Hendrik_2000 said:

China will never replace those western import since chocolate is not on the menu of most Chinese So it is pipe dream The market is 150 billion but how much profit out of it after deduction of labor, transport, processing cost maybe not much ?

Those resources far away from mainland China does not make sense since they are vulnerable to blockade and interdiction in time of war . Another thing investing in instable government is risky case in point Guinea iron mine China pour in billion of dollar and sign in an agreement with previous government and suddenly the western power instigate coup d'etat Puff the Chinese investment is now in question. So with just sleigh of hand China will loose billion of dollar if the general decide to expropriate the new iron mine. I can understand China invest railway in Laos it make sense but Africa ? They will just lost their shirt their

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You're ignoring the fact that all the "low risk" sources are already cornered by the former colonialists.

Yes, China has to invest in places at higher risk, but the point of that is to turn those places into stable sources of production. It's certainly not easy, but that's just the reality of it.

Hendrik_2000 said:

China will never replace those western import since chocolate is not on the menu of most Chinese So it is pipe dream The market is 150 billion but how much profit out of it after deduction of labor, transport, processing cost maybe not much ?

Those resources far away from mainland China does not make sense since they are vulnerable to blockade and interdiction in time of war . Another thing investing in instable government is risky case in point Guinea iron mine China pour in billion of dollar and sign in an agreement with previous government and suddenly the western power instigate coup d'etat Puff the Chinese investment is now in question. So with just sleigh of hand China will loose billion of dollar if the general decide to expropriate the new iron mine. I can understand China invest railway in Laos it make sense but Africa ? They will just lost their shirt their

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China will lose billions, huh? Even if that's true, China's economy is in the scale of tens of trillions - what's a few billion to it?

And if it becomes necessary, you don't think China can back an African tinpot with military force?

Anyone else have been following lately the Ukraine-Russia drama unfolding and it seems like things get more and more tense and escalatory between them each day including the US and some other European elements.

I was thinking god forbid if anything was to ignite out of nowhere and caught us all by surprise is there any counter-measures in place around this parts of the world (The far-east China, Pakistan and the surrounding countries)

This will unraval the world economy if a sudden miscalculation exchanges happens in that front giving us on this part of the world no choice but act but necessarily doesn't have to mean we will act as in get involved in that frontline as that is far away and logistically not feasible. I mean would this not realistically pave the way for the incursions into India. We could storm India from multiple axes and contrary to popular beliefs this will be a quick affair and time is the great essence here removing India out of the way from the get go to begin the real games of thrones this will free up everyone to go elsewhere.

Approx it won't take more then 6-12 months completely to defang India and it depends on the type of force we appy from the get go and the amount of men we throw at this problem

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How do I measure the butthurt in this article

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I always hear Western countries and their allies talk about how they despise Chinese tourists. Now that the West is in an anti-Chinese mood, they want to prevent China from making money from them but as usual with low-life hypocrites, they somehow believe they're still suppose to make money from China at the same time. The only way one can think that's possible is that they think they're superior and anyone they see as inferior to them only exists to be their slave but in modern terms the inferior have to instead give them their money they earn. That's why they don't like the idea of Chinese tourists. Tourism use to be only for the rich. They don't like seeing Chinese tourists because that means they must be rich. It makes matters only worse when they hear Chinese outspend them in tourist dollars around the world. Chinese exists only to cater to them not the other way around. That's why you see how Americans hate how the NBA caters to Chinese consumers.

In the consumer culture, the customer is always right. The corporate world says that to placate to blue collar Americans to give them a sense they're special and they have power. But they don't like that when it's the Chinese consumer that is always right. The West shouldn't have to lower themselves to hide imperialism through fronts like tourism to make money from Chinese. Chinese are suppose just give Westerners their money just for existing in their universe. They don't want to have to cater to Chinese. They don't want to have suck up to Chinese for their business. That's essentially begging... something superior people don't do. Lesser people are the ones that beg. That's why they get angry even when they're making money from Chinese but they don't like a business transaction happening where both sides get something from it. They want it where they get everything while you get nothing. If you've noticed, that's how they operate when it comes to international relations and geopolitics. When they want everything to be 100% in their favor, that's not something to be negotiated like some Chinese argue for. That's something to fight against not submit to.

The West repeats their brainwashing like they're doing now claiming China needs them more than they need China. And more and more people are admitting now that the West's anti-China trade war is what's causing inflation in the West. The one thing they're still not admitting on another front is Chinese not buying from them is also a part of the hurt the West is going through now. They're trying to save face by not admitting it. So who really needs who more? To them one has to be master and one has to be slave. There is no such thing as being equal because they have to be superior and the one in control. And they think it's easier to achieve something that is inhuman and unnatural. It can only come with violating human rights. They're resorting to old imperialist tricks such as starting anti-Chinese pogroms. The Australians are behind anti-Chinese violence in the Solomon Islands just as they helped the US get Indonesians to ethnically massacre a half a million Chinese in less than a month in 1965. They want to get rid of Chinese influence around the world through violence just as the West did in the past when they were taking over colonizing the world.

I recall someone said in this thread "who gives a fuck what the US thinks, we should be making mining deals with the Taliban" back when the pine seed thing was going on. Well here it comes.

ZeEa5KPul said:

China will lose billions, huh? Even if that's true, China's economy is in the scale of tens of trillions - what's a few billion to it?

And if it becomes necessary, you don't think China can back an African tinpot with military force?

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Military force? China didn't even lift a finger when the mob rape, loot and torch chinese in Indo
Dare they send expeditionary force to Africa? I doubt it. GT will open their mouth for sure but other than that nothing I have yet to see China intervene anywhere except in Korea but that is different time and different generation.

Beside those loan will never get paid back witness the recent default of Entebbe airport They will ask for debt forgiveness, debt restructuring etc. Those are not free money but the sweat and tear of average Chinese

Arnies said:

Anyone else have been following lately the Ukraine-Russia drama unfolding and it seems like things get more and more tense and escalatory between them each day including the US and some other European elements.

I was thinking god forbid if anything was to ignite out of nowhere and caught us all by surprise is there any counter-measures in place around this parts of the world (The far-east China, Pakistan and the surrounding countries)

This will unraval the world economy if a sudden miscalculation exchanges happens in that front giving us on this part of the world no choice but act but necessarily doesn't have to mean we will act as in get involved in that frontline as that is far away and logistically not feasible. I mean would this not realistically pave the way for the incursions into India. We could storm India from multiple axes and contrary to popular beliefs this will be a quick affair and time is the great essence here removing India out of the way from the get go to begin the real games of thrones this will free up everyone to go elsewhere.

Approx it won't take more then 6-12 months completely to defang India and it depends on the type of force we appy from the get go and the amount of men we throw at this problem

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@Arnies bro I am and for me this escalation is all bark from NATO, Putin had just drawn its redline, he is confident cause the EU badly need their gas supply and China had its back. Geopolitically they had grown stronger and of importance due to their Understanding with China. The US will be confronted with a 2 front war and EU with all their bravado will stay neutral. The Neocons want a war cause their pet project in Ukraine is in jeopardy and want NATO to be a part of the invasion of Donbass. The more they wait the worse outcome will happen same with Taiwan. With a senile and in dementia Biden, they are in power and need to act now.

If you study history, the Neocon will use the Georgian war example in 2008 as a template for the Ukraine invasion of Donbass. Next year all eyes is on Beijing as they will host the Winter Olympics, Ironically same place (Beijing Olympics 2008), same objective (chipping away Russian sphere of influence). Putin having experience it in 2008 had troops in place ready to assist. Blinken and NATO had to pull back and resorted to sanction cause they know any misadventure in Ukraine will be the downfall of America Imperium and the dismantling of EU experiment. The main reason Russia has an Escalatory Dominance.

Where is the much vaunted Chinese army expeditionary force ? No where to be seen

what garbage are you posting