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Overbom

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It's becoming increasingly stacked against China in the Olympics. While I dont think so, should China withdraw from the Olympics?
Not yet. However the next step should be creating a separate sports world where the West would be excluded. Cooperate with the global south, SCO, ASEAN, Africa, South America and create new competitions, associations, rules etc

Olympics is far too powerful in soft power/PR, which make it impossible for China to leave (yet)
 

Phead128

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But has the subversion actually failed, or is the WTA just a brick in the wall, remember, germany, the argueably most important EU state is definetly more pro US and pro India compared to Markel era Germany. And when the Germans (therefore the heavyweight in EU) decides to boycott and India and Japan and Republic of Taiwan also do, the onset of a 2022 peking olympics is quite far.


Even when this is Plan G or X, Y, Z we can not tell for now if the same result can be achieved.
Oh no, those 2 Indian athletes will be sorely missed. India hasn't won a single medal in winter olympics, and barely any medals in the summer olympics and paralympics. Even Chinese Taipei performs better than India and there is barely any snow in tropical Chinese Taipei province. Japan? The Japanese told US President Biden to fuck off in the most
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and will highly likely not join any boycotts. So Germans? The EU is highly fractured as evidenced by Brexit and Polish law controversy, they do not stand as a monolithic group. It's really just the usual suspects (AUKUS, CAN) that is making noise, and noise is only limited to a "diplomatic" boycott which is useless because they are still sending athletes, just not some senior official (who cares?), that's not really a boycott.
 

emblem21

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Τhis is because of the way the CCP chose to interact with the west, especially after "the right turn" and the peaceful coexistence with the West. Too deeply engaged to just split. Ironically, the Khrushchev's doctrine of peaceful coexistence with the West and the market reforms in the USSR at those times, were also the beginning of the Sino-Soviet spilt. You know, if leftists start to fight each other for ideological reasons they forget who is the real enemy. Back in the day, USSR and Communist parties worldwide made their own commie Olympiads, the Spartakiads
This intersection will not last and once the red line is crossed and a war is needed, it won’t take much to ramp up the hatred of the west when the red line is crossed. It is to the detriment of China to act nice to the west but once the gloves are off and the west seriously tries to cause trouble in Taiwan and stomps on Chinas reed line one too many, well China has the means to make it the very last thing they do, not to mention that things are steadily showing how far the down the west has gone, it will be easier to change the view of the people when the west under goes a real live civil war which is fast approaching. I doubt at that time that the average Chinese citizen would look up to the west any longer nor would they consider such a thing. All China needs is the spark and then everything will chnage
 

Overbom

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It is not about amount of athletes or medals this medals that, it is the SIGNAL that billions of people oppose fascist behaviour by china. And china can not blame anyone but itself for this situation
You ok? What China has to blame itself if India (or any other country) doesn't send some athletes?

Good for them and good for China. The Olympics will be done regardless of how many athletes participate

It is the way how democracies show that injustice will not prevail.
You ok? What injustice did China imposed to them?

About Japan, it will become more hawkish when china doesn't stop its build up or posture,
What build up posture? Are you telling me that it is illegal to build up your economy and then your military? China actually keeps a stable defence spending per gdp (much to the dissatisfaction to a lot of people here, me included)



plus taiwan would be far better off with Japan then with china, since the latter would mean a Korea style endless
You ok? That's too much rumblings even for you. Taiwan doesn't get to decide anything. Its fate rests upon China's hands


About Germany, the German Greens are finally in the gouverment and they, since beieng traditionally aligned with democratic US values, despise the trade deficit and chinese capriccios in europe, plus the mistreatment of Uygurs and Tibeteans, and Jews and Christians
I agree that the Greens are anti-China. However the German businesses will moderate them. So expect a lot of talk, and little walk (as per usual Western practise)

And those athletes that attend those games should be cancelled to.
If they want to come, they can come. If they don't want to come, they can stay home. China isn't forcing anyone to attend
 

duskseeker

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Far better off with Japan? Japan has no natural resources, thats why they entered ww2. Also like most of colonial states in south east Asia, their industries are controlled by the west.
It is not about amount of athletes or medals this medals that, it is the SIGNAL that billions of people oppose fascist behaviour by china. And china can not blame anyone but itself for this situation. It is the way how democracies show that injustice will not prevail. About Japan, it will become more hawkish when china doesn't stop its build up or posture, plus taiwan would be far better off with Japan then with china, since the latter would mean a Korea style endless war. About Germany, the German Greens are finally in the gouverment and they, since beieng traditionally aligned with democratic US values, despise the trade deficit and chinese capriccios in europe, plus the mistreatment of Uygurs and Tibeteans, and Jews and Christians. So Even when fractured, against china they stand firm. And those athletes that attend those games should be cancelled to.


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Phead128

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The boycott of 2022 Olympics in Beijing failed because no nation on earth is refusing to send their athletes to Beijing.
@Bakhtjaihind Do you know the difference between "considering" a diplomatic boycott (not sending diplomatic officials to attend opening/closing ceremony) versus an athletic boycott (not sending entire national athlete team)?? Name a SINGLE NATION consider an athletic boycott. There IS NONE. That's why the 2022 Olympic boycott failed. The AUKUS is "Considering" a diplomatic boycott which means it's a half-measure virtue signalling token symbolism.
It is not about amount of athletes or medals this medals that, it is the SIGNAL that billions of people oppose fascist behaviour by china
Your "Billions of people" is a token symbolism and useless virtue signalling as well. It failed with 2008 Olympics over Tibet and also failed with 2022 Olympics over Xinjiang.
 

Topazchen

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It is not about amount of athletes or medals this medals that, it is the SIGNAL that billions of people oppose fascist behaviour by china. And china can not blame anyone but itself for this situation. It is the way how democracies show that injustice will not prevail. About Japan, it will become more hawkish when china doesn't stop its build up or posture, plus taiwan would be far better off with Japan then with china, since the latter would mean a Korea style endless war. About Germany, the German Greens are finally in the gouverment and they, since beieng traditionally aligned with democratic US values, despise the trade deficit and chinese capriccios in europe, plus the mistreatment of Uygurs and Tibeteans, and Jews and Christians. So Even when fractured, against china they stand firm. And those athletes that attend those games should be cancelled to.


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Sleepystudent you are back for the umpteenth time. Shit posting here must be a huge turn on for you
 

Overbom

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Sleepystudent you are back for the umpteenth time. Shit posting here must be a huge turn on for you
Is that really him though? SleepyStudent has shown a quite remarkable ability of not learning anything after getting banned which led him to repeat his behaviour with each new alt account. That made it easy for us to recognise him. He was also more *ahem* articulate, and sophisticated on his posts lol

I think this is a separate person. Most probably an Indian from an IT cell. Check how these Indians like each other's posts on the Ladakh thread
 
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