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Overbom

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Those three have a very obvious target of course. I follow the American and European trade officials and their actions daily for 3.5 years now and their goal is to shove their desired economic system (Washington Consensus) upon China and other under the righteouss language banner of 'fair trade, level playing field' and other sugarcoating words.

That's old news. A week or so ago, EU foreign affairs commissioner openly said that the goal of the US-EU talks is to restrict China and don't allow it to advance

This "news" is about merely adding a puppet to this "coalition"
 

Chin evan

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But I do pity her, it's the prevailing thought of a western/white worship culture in Chinese society including Singapore and Malaysia that has overpowered ignorant minds and can we put the blame on her alone?
But I have very high hopes for the direction china is taking this year alone, they finally realised young naive minds needs to be protected, now the gov is advocating the 3 pillars of Chinese society again and showing "china in the classics" series on cgtn, I deem it the best protection .
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Those three have a very obvious target of course. I follow the American and European trade officials and their actions daily for 3.5 years now and their goal is to shove their desired economic system (Washington Consensus) upon China and other under the righteouss language banner of 'fair trade, level playing field' and other sugarcoating words.

Good luck to these ding dongs
 

Appix

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That's old news. A week or so ago, EU foreign affairs commissioner openly said that the goal of the US-EU talks is to restrict China and don't allow it to advance

This "news" is about merely adding a puppet to this "coalition"
Yeah, I know about the comments of Joseph Borell. There is little I miss these days about those vile white supremacist politicians.
 

Overbom

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Yeah, I know about the comments of Joseph Borell. There is little I miss these days about those vile white supremacist politicians.
To be honest.... China rise in the industrial chain actually threatens the EU more than the US. And that's because the EU has based its industry to produce intermediate goods which a rising China directly threatens

Few people remember but the EU was the one who was actively courting the US to team up against China's technological rise during Trump's administration
However Trump being Trump (god bless), tanked this effort by his idiotic moves so the EU had to sat it out and wait for the next president

And you know in a competition between China vs the EU, China wins 10 times out of 10. EU has exactly 0 hope to compete with the juggernaut called China
 

plawolf

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I used to think the EU would be the kingmaker in the contest between China and America, but these days I think the EU is essentially a neutral party and peripheral factory due to is own internal governance structure.

The EU can only operate under consensus, but these days both America and China have effective veto power to tank any proposals too blatantly targeted against one or the other.

So long as you are not stupid and open fire with the first shot on the EU to force a response (like Trump’s trade war against the EU), they will never be able to overcome their own internal differences and rivalries to decisively take a side.

Instead what we are likely to see are going to be increasingly rouge acts by individual pro-American countries to provoke China into responding, and then running and hiding behind the EU’s skirts. The current Lithuanian Taiwan BS stunt is a classic example.

Hell, I would say the EU would more likely end up being pulled apart by the Sino-US Cold War rather than be able to take a side as a whole.

The biggest practical impact the EU will have on the Sino-US Cold War is limit how close China and Russia can get and work together. But that’s largely a non-issue as China has the confidence to go toe-to-toe with America on its own rather than needing to borrow strength and seek affirmation from allies.
 

BlackWindMnt

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To be honest.... China rise in the industrial chain actually threatens the EU more than the US. And that's because the EU has based its industry to produce intermediate goods which a rising China directly threatens

Few people remember but the EU was the one who was actively courting the US to team up against China's technological rise during Trump's administration
However Trump being Trump (god bless), tanked this effort by his idiotic moves so the EU had to sat it out and wait for the next president

And you know in a competition between China vs the EU, China wins 10 times out of 10. EU has exactly 0 hope to compete with the juggernaut called China
China already won in producing intermediate goods, only thing EU really has is brand recognition question how long until local brands start eroding that in Asia.

Just look at where the EU car makers are sourcing their EV tech from a lot of China companies are part of that supply chain.
 

Temstar

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Those three have a very obvious target of course. I follow the American and European trade officials and their actions daily for 3.5 years now and their goal is to shove their desired economic system (Washington Consensus) upon China and other under the righteouss language banner of 'fair trade, level playing field' and other sugarcoating words.

Pft, never mind that EU and Japan are in direct economic competition, none of these characters can resist backstabbing each other when there's money to be made:

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Andy1974

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Banning Tom Fowdy from CGTN over his genuine criticism of CGTN is indeed tragic. I have been very critical of the Chinese media for years for their extremely poor PR skills vs any decent media in the West, SEA, HK, Japan, and SK. This was horribly exposed during the 2019 HK riots. China lost the information war hands down. This information war defeat had serious consequences. It resulted in the terrible outcomes of the HK local elections, Tsai winning her presidential election, divided China's image among the overseas Chinese communities, and worse of all, failed to stop the tsunami of Sinophobia since 2019.

That being said. The Chinese media today is objectively better than it was in 2019. In 2019, watching how CGTN covered the HK riots was quite a sad experience. They later learned to do better with their talk shows with Liu Xin, Wang Guan, and etc. But they are still miles behind the corporate medias of the 'free-world'. They should do a lot more collaboration with other like-minded media like RT to figure out a way to improve their reporting work. If I were the Chinese govt, I would try to buy out the SCMP, perhaps keep Yonden, and some of their more sensible journalists, and then purge it of their pure anti-China shills. Make SCMP more neutral, no more hating on China, but also give enough space to argue genuine constructive criticism of China.

I hope Tom Fowdy doesn't get too discouraged by this CGTN censor. His criticism of Chinese state media is legitimate because it was a constructive criticism. He must continue to combat the anti-China disinformation campaign. Eventually, the Chinese media will learn their lessons and recognize him again.

PS. I do hope that the Chinese State Propaganda start to reign in Victor Gao. His interviews with the Australian media, and even CGTN America were disasters for China's PR campaign. I get his intentions, but his views are also quite hawkish, and he has a problem of expressing his views a bit too crudely. I would prefer a someone like Eric Li to be interviewed by the Western media. He is far more grounded and sophisticated than Victor.
Tom Fowdy is exactly the kind of media smarts that China needs. His pieces are often compelling. What a shame all round.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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When China was down, poor, and deemed the sick man of Asia, where were these altruistic Chinese people you speak of? Most of us were probably ashamed of the country, ashamed of it's people for being "uncouthed" and not Westernized, most of all they don't speak the languages of sophistication like English, French, Spanish etc...Just look at how most Hong Kongers used to treat and looked down on Chinese mainlanders, the same can be said of the Chinese in Taiwan. They all used and still do think they are much better than Chinese people and China.

China doesn't owe anyone of us no more than we owe China anything except recognition of the fact that most of us were scattered by choice and or forced by circumstances that our forefathers/mothers endured. The benefits and privileges must be catered first and foremost to those who stayed, endured, and persisted despite the hardships. To the one's who got themselves educated abroad but chose to come back for the love of country and helped China prosper to where it is today; a stronger more resilient country able to defy the juggernaut that's America and the collective west.

If China was as weak as it was in the past, would you even propose such a scenario or feel this entitled to make this emotional demand?
For the pre-1980’s, a lot. For the military side, Ye Fei (Filipino-Chinese PLA general), Hong Thuy (Vo Nguyen Bac, a Vietnamese born PLA general) and the Chinese Jamaican officer that another user brought up are some of them. For the STEM aspect, technically Hua Luogeng and Qian Xuesen count as well despite being born in China. There are countless others that I heard of but unfortunately forgot. Regardless, don’t conflate them with the modern era of overseas Chinese; a decent majority of which, tbh and unfortunately, shouldn’t even be considered Chinese anymore.
 
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