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Wouldn't trust the American elites as far as you could throw a MBT.

What they say today is not what they are thinking and plotting. It's also clear to pretty much everyone (even their own) now that what they say has Z.E.R.O bearing on how they act even right in that exact moment. It's beyond comedy. As Macron recently muttered, "I don't think (he) lied, I know."

Cyclist said:

Could you mention one method that is not useless and counterproductive?

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Overwhelming force for one

Cyclist said:

LoL, not that overboard, but President Xi said he wants China that has a peaceful co-existence with USA (

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How can China wins heart and mind of people in Taiwan province and then reunite by peaceful way, I can only think using soft power. Again, using my understanding from wikipedia/google:
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And I want to retire early and sail the Seven Seas in a 75 foot private yacht. What you want and what you actually get can be very different things.

BANGKOK - The Thai government intends to further deepen its digital cooperation with Chinese technology company Huawei, senior Thai officials said at a cloud event held in Bangkok this week.

During the Powering Digital Thailand 2022 on Nov 17-19, Thai Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwon said digital infrastructure, such as 5G, is crucial to Thailand's economic and social development, especially for the country's post-pandemic economic revival.

Badly hit by the COVID-19 pandemic, the tourism-reliant nation registered an economic contraction of 6.1 percent last year, the worst in more than 20 years. However, the pandemic has significantly accelerated the adoption of digital technologies in Thailand, where Chinese tech companies have competitive advantages.

During the pandemic, Huawei used its technology to help local hospitals implement systems for automated medical supply, AI-backed diagnosis and remote treatment, which greatly improved the efficiency of hospitals and made healthcare more accessible.

Fueled by Thailand's digital roadmap, Huawei has focused on helping the country build 20,000 5G stations in the past two years. Currently, Thailand has more than 4.2 million 5G subscribers, leading in 5G adoption among ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) countries.

Visitors look at an automatic sorting assembly line based on 5G, AI and cloud technology at the Huawei exhibition in Bangkok, Nov 17, 2021. [Photo/Xinhua]

Another strength of Huawei has been its cloud capabilities. Deng Feng, general manager of Huawei Thailand, said Huawei Cloud is the only cloud service provider with local data centers in Thailand, considering that data localization is a key trend of global enterprises due to government regulations as well as security concerns.

He emphasized the Huawei will support Thailand's low-carbon and digital development in the future in four areas, including expanding 5G coverage and usage, providing cloud services, creating low-carbon development with digital energy, and cultivating industry talents.

Thai Minister of Digital Economy and Society Chaiwut Thanakamanusorn expressed his hopes for comprehensive collaboration between the Thai government and Huawei to facilitate the country's digital economy, which is targeted to account for 30 percent of the GDP by 2030.

According to a joint report released by Google, Temasek and Bain & Company earlier this month, Thailand's digital economy is expected to exceed $30 billion this year, up 51 percent, making it the second-largest market in Southeast Asia after Indonesia.

Huawei's Rotating Chairman Guo Ping said the company will continue innovating and building a tech ecosystem to facilitate faster digitalization in Asia-Pacific, and invest $100 million over the next three years to build a startup ecosystem in the region.

America is unsafe

Cyclist said:

That's where we have different experience. I was surprise to find out so many good games which was actually made in China. It changes people opinion, younger generation who does not have animosity toward China can be swayed.

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First of all, if that's already true, then are you noticing in increase in goodwill towards China or a decrease? For example, in heavily gamer societies like South Korea?

Secondly, you didn't answer the question. How is finding out that a game with no cultural connections to China is actually made in China different from finding out that any other nulturally neutral thing was made in China?

Cyclist said:

That beef analogy looks more like a threat, lol. Why China's Ambassador even want to talk with him in the first place, we don't even know, maybe.

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That's right. It's a spoken carrot and stick. When Xi says that China will be forced to take action should anyone attempt to move towards independence for Taiwan, that's hard power. Just because he doesn't make an overt threat for every sentence doesn't mean he's talking about cartoons and games or using "soft/flaccid/limp power."

Cyclist said:

We have different understanding of what considered as hard/soft power. I use wikipedia/google definition but some members here have different meanings, it's like saying my definition is the correct one and yours is not.

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Using proper reason rather than simply the hopes of its creator, there is nothing soft about the cultural power that eminates from a powerful country. It's a misnomer.

Cyclist said:

Then that will be never ending, that is where I consider agree to disagree:
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I understand that, but it doesn't mean it's not silly. When someone who has been debated into a corner by everyone says, "I still feel that the planet is flat. I can't walk on round things. We can agree to disagree," that's not exactly a graceful exit.

Cyclist said:

This is based on my understanding (using wikipedia/google) what considered as soft power, China use diplomacy (soft power) to convince foreign companies to invest in China and then later on with WTO members to let China in. Combined with hard work and intelligence of Chinese people, China successfully rise to its position today and hopefully it will keep rising.

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China used its massive workforce and wealth to get those investments. Rival governments don't want any investments from their companies that make China stronger; China's government hits these foreign companies all the time with fines, bans, orders, etc... but they keep coming back despite admitting that they are being frustrated left and right and facing an increasingly difficult environment in China. You can't beat them back with a stick. Why? Hard power. Population, resources, and money in China and the Chinese market. If they're not hard-banned from coming, they'll grit their teeth through any insult and injury to come.

Cyclist said:

Do you have suggestion how to reunite peacefully with Taiwan province?

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Obviously by telling them we can do this the easy way or the hard way; the US is too weak and scared to fight and there will be no DDP members who survive the hard way so what's it gonna be?

It's sure as hell not gonna be because they like your video games so much they ask to be annexed LOL

manqiangrexue said:

First of all, if that's already true, then are you noticing in increase in goodwill towards China or a decrease? For example, in heavily gamer societies like South Korea?

Secondly, you didn't answer the question. How is finding out that a game with no cultural connections to China is actually made in China different from finding out that any other nulturally neutral thing was made in China?

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I saw an increase in goodwill because of the game sales there ( )

Based on my own experience, I play some games without researching where they come from and then later on I found out it was made by Chinese developers. If many of them experience the same thing as me, but they already hooked with the game, they might as well still playing the game.

manqiangrexue said:

That's right. It's a spoken carrot and stick. When Xi says that China will be forced to take action should anyone attempt to move towards independence for Taiwan, that's hard power. Just because he doesn't make an overt threat for every sentence doesn't mean he's talking about cartoons and games or using "soft/flaccid/limp power."

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Again, this is my personal opinion, I don't think you can win heart and mind of people in Taiwan with hard power.

manqiangrexue said:

Using proper reason rather than simply the hopes of its creator, there is nothing soft about the cultural power that eminates from a powerful country. It's a misnomer.

I understand that, but it doesn't mean it's not silly. When someone who has been debated into a corner by everyone says, "I still feel that the planet is flat. I can't walk on round things. We can agree to disagree," that's not exactly a graceful exit.

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If you have your own definition of hard/soft power, how can I force you to accept my own definition? If you don't like wikipedia/google definition, then you can search from baidu.

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It uses the same definition that I got from wikipedia/google.

manqiangrexue said:

China used its massive workforce and wealth to get those investments. Rival governments don't want any investments from their companies that make China stronger; China's government hits these foreign companies all the time with fines, bans, orders, etc... but they keep coming back despite admitting that they are being frustrated left and right and facing an increasingly difficult environment in China. You can't beat them back with a stick. Why? Hard power. Population, resources, and money in China and the Chinese market. If they're not hard-banned from coming, they'll grit their teeth through any insult and injury to come.

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We still have different understanding what hard/soft power is.

manqiangrexue said:

Obviously by telling them we can do this the easy way or the hard way; the US is too weak and scared to fight and there will be no DDP members who survive the hard way so what's it gonna be?

It's sure as hell not gonna be because they like your video games so much they ask to be annexed LOL

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It is best not to underestimate your enemies. Time is on China's side. Be patient. As long as Taiwan does not declare indepedence, China still has hope that it does not need to use force (war). Why don't we ask ourselves, why Japan who once colonized Taiwan are now preferred by some people in Taiwan rather with Mainland China.

It's been pages, can we just drop this hard power and soft power bs? This page has been derailed for long enough don't you guys think?

MixedReality said:

It is funny to see Djokovic jumping on the Anglo media’s anti-China bandwagon considering the Anglo media hates Djokovic’s guts. China is one of Serbia’s close friends. Djokovic gets huge support in China in contrast to Anglo countries where he gets booed because he challenges the Anglo media’s golden boy Federer.

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Milosevic was sold out by Serbians. Lin Zexu was sacked and exiled by the Qing court. There are always traitors.

Cyclist said:

I saw an increase in goodwill because of the game sales there (

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Based on my own experience, I play some games without researching where they come from and then later on I found out it was made by Chinese developers. If many of them experience the same thing as me, but they already hooked with the game, they might as well still playing the game.

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Like I said, so what? People don't like China more when they find out their chair was made in China; why should they like China more when they find their their game is made in China? You talk about the success of Chinese games but always fail to make the connection to increasing China's PR.

I'll go one step further and point out that despite the fact that Japanese products are often viewed in China as being of high quality, Japan itself is always viewed as evil and draws revile. It is an evil country that happens to make quality goods; beat it without mercy to settle old and new debts together if it dares enter a conflict that gives China reason to do so. That's the best that "soft/flaccid/limp" power gets you without political alignment.

Cyclist said:

Again, this is my personal opinion, I don't think you can win heart and mind of people in Taiwan with hard power.

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You asked how to peacefully reunify them and I answered. How to win their hearts and minds? That comes after you take them over and prove to them that your rule is correct. Trying to win hearts and minds while being actively undermined by hostile local media is impossible.

Cyclist said:

If you have your own definition of hard/soft power, how can I force you to accept my own definition? If you don't like wikipedia/google definition, then you can search from baidu.
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One of the results:

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It uses the same definition that I got from wikipedia/google.

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The definition of soft power is that it's based on the theory of soft power?? LOL Nice definition

It doesn't matter how the term was made up; it's not correct. I can make up terms to and give them official meaning but it doesn't mean it makes sense. I challenge the official definition created by its founder and that he cannot possibly be correct in describing diplomacy from a position of strength as "soft." He is a man and he can be shown to be wrong by reason. Your answer does not counter my argument but simply restates the founder's flawed and illogical definition as if that by simply existing, it is assumed to be a valid and equal idea.

Cyclist said:

It is best not to underestimate your enemies. Time is on China's side. Be patient. As long as Taiwan does not declare indepedence, China still has hope that it does not need to use force (war).

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I didn't say when it will happen, but I said how it could happen and how Taiwan can be reunited peacefully. I didn't estimate anybody; if China does not achieve that power dynamic, the reunification of Taiwan may never happen.

Cyclist said:

Why don't we ask ourselves, why Japan who once colonized Taiwan are now preferred by some people in Taiwan rather with Mainland China.

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Because it's an easy question with an obvious answer. People embrace the current situation over history when they conflict. Historically, Japan was horrible to the ROC, but today Japan has a common interest with the ROC to suppress China and gain independence for the ROC. It's all about political alliance. It's the same reason that China and Russia are allies despite Russia and China having had many conflicts in the past.

There is no country (that I can think of) that enjoys a positive public image in a politically antagonistic rival nation. This shows that the concept of "soft/flaccid/limp" power is useless as it all depends on hard power and political alliance.