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International Law is very plain. There is only one China and its official Government is that of the CPC based in Beijing and is the legal sovereign power of both PRC and ROC. This matters as this sovereignty gives Beijing rights in the situation in relation to the territory controlled by the ROC.
There are measures that Beijing can take to uphold its sovereignty and which would not impinge overly over the internal self governance on the Island of Taiwan.

I also notice that the Western MSM seems to be airbrushing the ROC out of story and indeed history by routinely referring to China and Taiwan. This will only appeal to separatists on the Island and will only alienate those that genuinely identify as the ROC and adhere to the one China policy.

Bellum_Romanum said:

Thanks for a well thought out reply and more than diplomatic response to my somewhat impolite questioning. My ignorance of the mandatory service versus the actual participation or application to the PLA really showed in the way I preface my question to you, so my sincerest apologies.

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No problem. Nice chat!

Sleepyjam said:

Strongly disagree. Carriers are the eyes of the fleet without them the fleet is half blind and is no blue water navy. Also less powerful radars(especially considering the proliferation of stealth aircraft) on less seaworthy ships isnt such a good idea either, it would only make these ships much more vulnerable. China has such a massive advantage in shipbuilding over the US that the criticism of ”expensive ships that take forever to build” is much more suited for the US.

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Well the eyes of the fleet are the AESA radars mounted on the military vessels. With China's advanced radar technologies, it could easily mounted dual-beam AESA air-search and fire control radars on 054 series platforms. Then just develop several more offensive missiles that could be fitted inside the 054A/B's VLS. In fact, something akin to the Admiral Gorshkov class frigate would be ideal, but smaller and faster, while still containing all the advanced electronics and sensors. I will also argue that Japan's new Mogami class frigate could be something for China to mass produce in the hundreds, but with reduced costs and increases number of VLS tubes.

Cyclist said:

Probably this is what will happen if Tsai Ing-wen dares to declare independence.....

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Honestly it is not Tsai who should be punished. She's quite a moderate. On the other hand, it is the DPP's lobbyists (along with the so-called student activists from the 2014 Sunflower Movement and other pro-independence radicals driving the de-sinicisation campaign in the ROC) who use money to "legally" bribe US Congressmen (not the smartest people in the world, but surely good at passing dangerous policies/laws after receiving their campaign donations) into sending Americans kids to fight for Taiwan that should be publicly executed by firing squads, say inside the Bird's Nest or Beijing Workers' Stadium (if those buildings happen to survive the nuclear exchange).

ChongqingHotPot92 said:

Well the eyes of the fleet are the AESA radars mounted on the military vessels. With China's advanced radar technologies, it could easily mounted dual-beam AESA air-search and fire control radars on 054 series platforms. Then just develop several more offensive missiles that could be fitted inside the 054A/B's VLS. In fact, something akin to the Admiral Gorshkov class frigate would be ideal, but smaller and faster, while still containing all the advanced electronics and sensors. I will also argue that Japan's new Mogami class frigate could be something for China to mass produce in the hundreds, but with reduced costs and increases number of VLS tubes.

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Radars on ships are still limited by the fact that they are on ships (earth curvature and all). So planes really help a lot (can also push the area a lot more forward/around).

Michaelsinodef said:

Radars on ships are still limited by the fact that they are on ships (earth curvature and all). So planes really help a lot (can also push the area a lot more forward/around).

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You mean KJ-600 launched from 003?

ChongqingHotPot92 said:

You mean KJ-600 launched from 003?

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yep or just fighters in general since their radars are also pretty good (inferior compared to kj-600 of course).

Michaelsinodef said:

yep or just fighters in general since their radars are also pretty good (inferior compared to kj-600 of course).

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Well that's for naval battles on open seas or land attacks far away from China's shores in the distant future. As of now, the most immediate task is to stockpile enough firepower to deal with Taiwan and India. I believe China's limited defense budget should sharply focus on these two imminent existential threats (which could very well end the CCP Party State) instead of building fancy platform for power projections the distant future.

ChongqingHotPot92 said:

Well the eyes of the fleet are the AESA radars mounted on the military vessels. With China's advanced radar technologies, it could easily mounted dual-beam AESA air-search and fire control radars on 054 series platforms. Then just develop several more offensive missiles that could be fitted inside the 054A/B's VLS. In fact, something akin to the Admiral Gorshkov class frigate would be ideal, but smaller and faster, while still containing all the advanced electronics and sensors. I will also argue that Japan's new Mogami class frigate could be something for China to mass produce in the hundreds, but with reduced costs and increases number of VLS tubes.

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Wrong. Ship radars don’t have OTH capability. Mogami also only has X band radar useless against any serious air threat. If you distribute them in a wide area then they will just get picked off one by one.

Sleepyjam said:

Wrong. Ship radars don’t have OTH capability. Mogami also only has X band radar useless against any serious air threat. If you distribute them in a wide area then they will just get picked off one by one.

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Well of course you can have a few 055s or 052DLs (2-3) serving as "mother ships" providing air-surveillance intel (through advanced battlefield information sharing) for the rest of the fleet, but have those light frigates, submarines, and unmanned missile boats/mini-subs do the actual fighting and overpower the enemy fleet/naval bases.