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taxiya

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I don't agree. The west does not want chjs to be another version of the US. They are working actively to prevent it. They want a china chats subservient to the west.
I said "you are making China another version of US." I did not say that the west want that. I don't care what the west want, I only care what China want to be, and to a lesser extent what the rest of the world want China to be.

P.S. I assume that chjs and chats are just typos?
No that's not my suggestion. I suggest China sometimes fight fire with fire. It would be the opposite of turning china into a vassel state if china can defend herself adequately no the PR world stage.

I think china needs to work smarter in PR and counter better against the Wests lies. And I think better messaging is needed. A lie, however big, if said a million times becomes truth. I feel china needs use some these strategies to counter such attacks.

But the problem is that's only my opinion and Everyone has one.
I did not say that you suggested China to be the "good boy of the west", I meant that what you suggested will lead China to be the "good boy of the west" even if that is against what you want.

Put in another way, I was saying that you have fallen to the trap of the west to shape China's future in the form of the west preferred by provocation. Very often people do things opposite to their intentions. That happens when they listen too much, care too much and try heard to beat the enemy in the enemy's game. That is the "fight fire with fire" that you talk about.

I like chairman Mao's phrase "你打你的,我打我的", "you fight your way, I fight mine", that led China on the course of defeating US. On the contrary, USSR went "tit for tat" with US, and collapsed. If China ever want to be the number one, China must destroy the ground work of US about how things are done, how to speak, how to behave. Do not give the world the impression that China is going to play the US game, walk the US way and talk in the US manner, but only the opposite, to get the world used to how things are done in Chinese way.
 
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Tyler

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Excellent. Now, Putin will also not attend in person the COP26 meeting.

Very good. Let the rich western countries meet and talk all they want with each other. Xi and Putin have more important things to do than wasting their time with the western countries pointing fingers left and right.
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Chinese officials are huddling at the office, playing strategic video games, planning their next moves. This reduces carbon emission of flying around.
 

emblem21

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The level of stupidity in the UK is monumental at this point. At the point, in the event of a crisis that the UK may start given its past performance with Russia and China in the past few months with the ships sent to their backyards, expect China and Russia to demonstrate the power of its hypersonic weapons and other capabilities should they be pressed although really, the UK really doesn't have what it takes to threaten either nations anymore because they don't have the latest in technology in regards to such weapons and their past performance often requires them to be rescued by the USA repeatedly from screwing up, to the point where even the US is getting tired of it.

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Really, the UK should know very clearly when to stop with the provocations and childish behavior because right now, if the supply/gas shortages are not dealt with right now it is becoming an existential crisis that could bring the UK to its knees, the people will rise up and then will tear these stupid leaders to pieces because what is more important, pissing off China and Russia and then getting ignored for the sheer lack of strength the UK has right now or having to starve to death in a matter of days because Boris did nothing but comb his hair. Should the UK devolve into chaos right now, the USA will lose a important ally, no matter how weak it looks right now and then the AUKUS will be reduced to 2 members, and should the USA finally go down in an economic/societal crisis, AUKUS is going to die in a crib and Australia will have no choice but to get rid of Scomo or face scrutiny from every regional neighbor in regards to being a lapdog of the west and really, the Anglo Saxons will become the sick man of Asia if they cannot see the situation they will be in, in a matter of months/few years. Why the UK and the US has such a supply shortage is beyond me unless it was intentional and thus the people should be directing their pitch forks at the elite if that is the case
 
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hashtagpls

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Excellent. Now, Putin will also not attend in person the COP26 meeting.

Very good. Let the rich western countries meet and talk all they want with each other. Xi and Putin have more important things to do than wasting their time with the western countries pointing fingers left and right.
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Chinese officials are huddling at the office, playing strategic video games, planning their next moves. This reduces carbon emission of flying around.
So much for white america’s plan to “selectively engage” China
 

Overbom

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I wonder why China is buying gas from US and not Russia
didn't Russia recently had a totally not suspicious explosion at one of its gas facilities in Siberia?

Also there might be limits to how much gas Russia can sell to China. Infrastructure network might not be able to handle these exports.
Finally, it would help fulfill the Phase 1 trade deal China's purchase commitments for US goods
 

Tyler

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didn't Russia recently had a totally not suspicious explosion at one of its gas facilities in Siberia?

Also there might be limits to how much gas Russia can sell to China. Infrastructure network might not be able to handle these exports.
Finally, it would help fulfill the Phase 1 trade deal China's purchase commitments for US goods
Do future contracts count towards the current 2020-2021 trade agreement?
 

Overbom

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Do future contracts count towards the current 2020-2021 trade agreement?
Dunno, but it might serve as a good hand when they talk again. Like, "we heard your complaints, and we are making progress, we need more time etc."

IMO this is mostly about China just needing more gas than anything else. And in a lesser degree, to strengthen China's hand when it will negotiate with Russia for gas price in the Power of Siberia 2 project

It is crucial that China gets the best (cheapest) price on this. Whatever it can do, China must do, in order to lower the gas price as much as possible
 

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The Chinese military conducted two hypersonic weapons tests over the summer, raising US concerns that Beijing is gaining ground in the race to develop a new generation of arms.

On July 27 the
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launched a rocket that used a “fractional orbital bombardment” system to propel a nuclear-capable “hypersonic glide vehicle” around the earth for the first time, according to four people familiar with US intelligence assessments.

The Financial Times this week
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that the first test was in August, rather than at the end of July. China subsequently conducted a second hypersonic test on August 13, according to two people familiar with the matter.


Three people familiar with the first test in July said it stunned the Pentagon and US intelligence because China managed to demonstrate a brand new weapons capability, although they declined to elaborate on the details.

One person said government scientists were struggling to understand the capability, which the US does not currently possess, adding that China’s achievement appeared “to defy the laws of physics”.

Space and missile experts have been debating the Chinese test since the FT revealed the event at the weekend.

Jeffrey Lewis, a nuclear weapons expert at Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey, said China appeared to have developed a new innovation, but stressed the need to maintain a degree of scepticism.

“We should be open to the reality that China is also capable of technological innovation,” he said.

“But I would be careful about exaggerated characterisations that may help excuse a mundane intelligence failure. If we say some innovation is impossible to imagine, then no one is really responsible for missing it,” Lewis added.

The White House on Wednesday declined to comment. US government officials, including the defence secretary Lloyd Austin, have refused to confirm or deny the existence of the test, which remains classified.

President Joe Biden on Wednesday expressed concern about hypersonic weapons. Asked as he departed Washington for Pennsylvania whether he was worried about the development of the high-speed manoeuvrable weapons, he responded, “yes”.

The Chinese foreign ministry this week denied the FT story, saying it had only launched a space plane, but that test was conducted on July 16. The Chinese embassy in Washington declined to comment on Wednesday.

Speaking to the US military newspaper
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in Germany this week, Admiral Charles Richard, the head of Strategic Command who oversees US nuclear forces, said he was “not surprised” by the FT report. He added he also would not be surprised if more reports emerge next month.

Richard, who has ramped up warnings about Chinese nuclear forces this year, told the newspaper that the “breathtaking expansion” meant that China could “now execute any possible nuclear employment strategy”.

Over the summer satellite images emerged that showed China was building several hundred silos to house intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Ned Price, state department spokesperson, this week said the Biden administration was very concerned about the rapid expansion of China’s nuclear forces, including its development of “novel delivery systems”.

Interesting snippet in bold. I wonder what the hell they saw. Must have been crazier than just a FOBS with HGV attached if that characterization is correct.
 

broadsword

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Of course China has corruption. China just went through a highly capitalistic phase, and is only now starting to transition into a socialist society.

Seriously, you just don't seem to understand what corruption is.

Then tell us what it is and explain and if it is different from bribing somebody. I am waiting with bated breath.
 
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