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Bellum_Romanum

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siegecrossbow said:
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And here inlies why the Republicans are nothing but whining babies and just as hypocritical and holier than thou like their Democratic counterparts. Where is the Energy SEC wrong in saying what she said which is nothing but common sense. But because both political parties like and love to score political points for brownie points to their respective political masters and constituents not to mention that it's the midterm election in 2022 the Republicans are trying to sink the current Biden administration on just about anything. It will be a given that the Republicans will capture the house based on historical trends and history. If and when that happens, Biden is going to be a the mercy of the recalcitrant Republican party who's goal is to goad and pushed Biden to take more and more extreme anti-China measures. His domestic policies are directly intertwined and impacted by his foreign policies a fact that most Americans from both sides have failed to grasp in like forever.
 
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Overbom

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Bellum_Romanum said:
His domestic policies are directly intertwined and impacted by his foreign policies a fact that most Americans from both sides have failed to grasp in like forever.
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Dont worry, other countries around the world are wathing these signs.

If when the Republicans capture the House, US' allies would be horrified by the prospect of a 2024 Republican Presidency. It is well known, that the moment Republicans get the House, they will immediately start stalling and start impeachment hearings, uncovering "corruption", dragging Biden's team reputation through the mud etc, which would result in low Biden approval ratings for the 2024 elections

The country which is in the real position of strength now is China. It can sit back and wait for countries to knock on its door for consultations. Thats the difference between a schizophrenic great power (US) and a cold, calculating but logical great power (China)

Republicans winning in the midterms will be the first piece of domino falling.
 
horse

horse

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t2contra said:
I thought he resembles Christopher Plummer. @horse , what do you think?
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Wow! I just turned on the computer too! Haha!

Well, okay, it is obvious to me that Pompeo will follow his dear leader, the American superhero Orange Man, to his grave. Pompeo cannot help it, he seems like a born again bigly.

Myself, I have been working on my Trump Withdrawal Syndrome.

Those symptoms have been receding somewhat.

However, often I fall off the wagon and need a fix. We need the humour! Help!

It is a process. But given enough time, and with the help of my support group, I believe will finally manage and conquer my Trump Withdrawal Syndrome.

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Trump classical music.


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plawolf

plawolf

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t2contra said:
No one here is asking for no corruption. You were making a strawman. We are talking about big projects undertaken by Chinese firms that cost millions of dollars, part of which could be used for lining the pockets of officials. Millions of dollars. Or even hundreds of millions. That's abetting kleptocracy.

That is why I was talking about imposing ethics. Corruption of tens of millions is of a different order of magnitude from bribing the border officials. Small favors like small gifts or dinners could be exempted.
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That’s straight copy paste white condescension and colonialism by applying western standards and saying Africans need to run their country based on what China feels is right. Please give me a break.

And worst yet, it’s classics western form over function virtual-signalling-as-they-stuff-their-faces-in-pork-barrels-and-gravy-trains BS nonsense.

Back to basics, why is corruption bad? Because it wastes national resources as they are funnelled into private pockets instead of working for the collective good of the country and people.

But what wastes more resources - officials taking a few million dollars cut for themselves and letting companies just get on with it, or officials passing ridiculous laws and regulations so they can take a far bigger cut and waste billions?

Just ask yourself how come many African countries now have better infrastructure than America while spending a tiny fraction of the money if how China does business in Africa is so bad.

And please don’t make it out like it’s only Chinese companies that does it. The US treasury does shake downs of European companies for the same all the time. Hell, if you think there isn’t kick packs galore in the Indian Rafale deal or there won’t be massive pork barrelling and gravy training on the Australian SSN deal, I got a Rafale and Seawolf to sell you.

t2contra said:
I mean where can you find a country that legally allows a contractor to win a tender by paying the country's leader a commission. As for paying money to get things done, avoid as much as possible. But the main thing as I wrote is to have a code of conduct first and foremost.
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My man, have you not hard of Presidential election financing?
 
broadsword

broadsword

Brigadier
plawolf said:
That’s straight copy paste white condescension and colonialism by applying western standards and saying Africans need to run their country based on what China feels is right. Please give me a break.

And worst yet, it’s classics western form over function virtual-signalling-as-they-stuff-their-faces-in-pork-barrels-and-gravy-trains BS nonsense.
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Only in your mind!

But what wastes more resources - officials taking a few million dollars cut for themselves and letting companies just get on with it, or officials passing ridiculous laws and regulations so they can take a far bigger cut and waste billions?
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Glorifying corruption.

And please don’t make it out like it’s only Chinese companies that does it. The US treasury does shake downs of European companies for the same all the time. Hell, if you think there isn’t kick packs galore in the Indian Rafale deal or there won’t be massive pork barrelling and gravy training on the Australian SSN deal, I got a Rafale and Seawolf to sell you.
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How did I make it only Chinese companies? Here, I am concerned with Chinese companies. If Western companies want to carry on with their corruption, we should be happy.

My man, have you not hard of Presidential election financing?
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Nofuxgiven
 
solarz

solarz

Brigadier
t2contra said:
Glorifying corruption.
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Corruption is a necessary evil of development.

What is corruption? It can be boiled down to using political power to gain material wealth. Like He Sheng says in the above video, if he can't reward the officials working for him, how is he supposed to accomplish anything? This is simply the harsh reality.

Only when society has reached a certain level of development can we begin to tackle corruption. People like Ji Xiaolan may sound righteous, but they rarely get anything useful done.
 
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Abominable

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Overbom said:
People asking about no corruption in third world countries must be dreaming. Has any of you tried to enter such a country?

Well let me tell you, that sometimes, even when trying to enter such a country by a land border, you need to bribe the border officials.

You need healthcare, bribe again, otherwise better get ready to risk your life when dealing with "unmotivated" doctors

If you want to construct something and you need a permit, bribe again, and if you refuse, better get ready for a 10 year delay.

If you want to import goods for business, well guess what, bribe again or they will be held up in the customs forever.

Wait, you have issues with thieves and gangs (very common), well, bribe the police for protection, because if you think that they will protect you because of their "duty" then good luck, your relatives will have a funeral for you.

What if a new politician comes who is corrupt and favours his own businesses over the competitors? Well guess what, bribe again, so you get "protection" from the politicans robbing you.

Then there is the whole thing about taxation matters, the officials will fervently try to find a small problem with your paperwork (very common), not because they want to do their "duty", but because they soon after they expect, guess what, a bribe, to solve bureaucratic problems

This is the reality of living or/and doing business there. People expecting no corruption in a third-world country is like asking for humans to close their noses/mouths and stop breathing. Impossible
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Are you talking about your own experiences or are you just making stuff up?

I've only been asked for a bribe twice in my life and both times were in Europe.
 
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