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Sinnavuuty

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The bubble will not burst.

This AI is real, for the work force, it improves the employee. Therefore, as the employee becomes more productive, then that drives growth.

All the money spent, is in the data centers, which are required. More use of AI means more tokens being inputted and outputted, which means the demand for and the computer power will grow exponentially.

The talk lately is that OpenAI will become a hyper-scaler, which is like what the other companies do. That is Plan B for OpenAI.

Then the funny is, they American do not have enough power for all of this AI infrastructure spending. Therefore, if these high valuations get readjusted, it may be a while because without the power, how fast will they build?
Look, financial speculation, low returns, and billion-dollar investments indicate that the billion-dollar AI bubble may burst.

Look at the level of spending by Big Tech companies; this is unsustainable in the long term.

To begin with, the enthusiasm for AI is surrounded by a technocratic, deterministic, and accelerationist ideology that guarantees that AI adoption will change everything.

This narrative has some basis in the wonders of AI – after all, anyone who has used a predictive chatbot (I, today, prefer the Chinese Deepseek for obvious reasons) knows that the technology can be an excellent tool for any type of work. But it is undoubtedly exaggerated and credulous regarding what AI can actually accomplish.

We still don't know very well what artificial intelligence will be used for in the future, and a lot of money has been spent on it.

An MIT study published in the middle of this year managed to quantify the difference between this "search" within companies that have AI projects and the real financial return. Of the 300 projects analyzed, 95% had no financial return. To reach this conclusion, the researchers also interviewed 150 directors of these companies.

Another problem is the formation of an oligarchy. This trend has raised alarm bells in recent years. OpenAI bought 10% of the chip company AMD, while Nvidia is investing US$100 billion in OpenAI. Microsoft, one of OpenAI's owners, is a client of the AI cloud computing company CoreWeave, which also has Nvidia as a shareholder. Microsoft accounts for almost 20% of Nvidia's revenue.

Of course, companies can collaborate. But what we are seeing here is the formation of an interconnected oligopoly that can stifle competition, control the future of technology, and concentrate power with little or no oversight.

Furthermore, the mere announcement of these agreements helps inflate the stock prices of all of them.
 

Chevalier

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i wonder if Lighthizer tried to scrunch up the paper of Chinese terms into a paper airplane and throw it at the Chinese delegation at the table, the way he did to the Japanese? He’s still on the sanctions list btw meaning his career after government must be on par with the Jenny Craig diet of pompeo.


This comes as the U.S. moves troops out of the eastern front to focus on the troop buildup off Venezuela.
 

siegecrossbow

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i wonder if Lighthizer tried to scrunch up the paper of Chinese terms into a paper airplane and throw it at the Chinese delegation at the table, the way he did to the Japanese? He’s still on the sanctions list btw meaning his career after government must be on par with the Jenny Craig diet of pompeo.

Looks like somebody is itching for the John Bolton treatment.
 

iewgnem

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Only the rare earth control measures introduced on October 9th were suspended; the previous measures remained in effect.
Chinese readout didn't actually say all export control from Oct 9 will be delayed, only "relevant" controls from Oct 9 (in Chinese statements the word "relevant" 相关 is distinct from "all" 所有) . China announced 4 items on Oct 9, only one is relevant to RE itself, the other 3 are on refining tech, battery tech and batteries, China will basically pick and choose which one is relevant, but its unlikely China will relax ban on refining tech no more than it did the original ban on stockpiling which is still in place.

Both sides will gets their goal, China gets to knee cap US military and RE buildup, while US gets to avoid industrial collapse by continuing to rely on Chinese RE.

China has no interest in Nvidia chips, Trump allowing Blackwell sales is for their own benifit just like H20, if they do so China will actually have to ban it.
 

gullible

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i think china wants to let US tariffs with other nations to be completed before China demands more from the US.
If US were forced to concede totally to China now would other nations rebel against Trump's tariffs?
They are watching....
 

iewgnem

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一、美方将取消针对中国商品(包括香港特别行政区和澳门特别行政区商品)加征的10%所谓“芬太尼关税”,对中国商品(包括香港特别行政区和澳门特别行政区商品)加征的24%对等关税将继续暂停一年。中方将相应调整针对美方上述关税的反制措施。双方同意继续延长部分关税排除措施。

二、美方将暂停实施其9月29日公布的出口管制50%穿透性规则一年。中方将暂停实施10月9日公布的相关出口管制等措施一年,并将研究细化具体方案。

三、美方将暂停实施其对华海事、物流和造船业301调查措施一年。美方暂停实施相关措施后,中方也将相应暂停实施针对美方的反制措施一年。

此外,双方还就芬太尼禁毒合作、扩大农产品贸易、相关企业个案处理等问题达成共识。双方进一步确认了马德里经贸磋商成果,美方在投资等领域作出积极承诺,中方将与美方妥善解决TikTok相关问题。
Also. Why is Trump talking about 57% tariffs. The agreed rate was 54% tariffs as per the previous truce. Where did the extra 3% come from?

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Only the Chinese readout matters because:
1- You can only trust Chinese government to be competent in writing these things
2- The statements says China will only pause coutermeasures after US did their part, US failure to implement China's readout means China doesn't do anything.

Chinese statement read as US will remove 10% "Fentanyl" tariffs AND continue to pause reciprocal for 1 year. China's tariff on US ag export is in response to fentanyl tariff. This is basically walking everything back to before April, and will see China having one of the lowest tariff among all US trading partners, including Canada lol

Also need to note China didn't actually say they'll remove countermeasures to US tariffs even after US removed theirs, only to "accordingly modify" China's countermeasures with nothing specific.

Chinese references to US promises in the field of investment is also very interesting because the only discussion on this subject was China demanding US remove national security laws to allow Chinese purchase of US assets.
 
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