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BillRamengod

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Lmao holy fuck. Trump wasn’t only demanding rare earth minerals. He was demanding Ukraine turn into a permanent US extraction colony. I think the Lithuanian FM might have a point. China shouldn’t be allowed to get involved because this is a poison pill for Chinese investments. After Ukraine signs away their citizens to a lifetime of indentured slavery.

Anything of economic value associated with resources will be controlled by the US. Power plants, ports, airports, refineries, factories, farms, etc for an infinite period of time.
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Yesterday I came across this draft document of the agreement that Zelensky rejected on weibo, I couldn't find it on X so I assumed it was fake but it might be real?
Fuck, It feels like US is the one who defeated Ukraine.
 

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WASHINGTON/TAIPEI, Feb 17 (Reuters) - Taiwan is exploring buying arms worth billions of dollars from the United States, sources briefed on the matter said, hoping to win support from the new Trump administration as China continues to apply military pressure on the island.
Three sources familiar with the situation, speaking to Reuters on condition of anonymity given the sensitivity of the situation, told Reuters that Taiwan is in talks with Washington.
The package is meant to demonstrate to the United States that Taiwan is committed to its defense, one of the sources said.
A second source said the package would include coastal defense cruise missiles and HIMARS rockets.
"I would be very surprised if it was less than $8 billion. Somewhere between $7 billion to $10 billion," the source added.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment. However, U.S. national security adviser Mike Waltz has said he wants to speed delivery of weapons to Taiwan.
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zyklon

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Behold Trump’s grand peace plan! Make it actually better for Ukraine to loose to Russia and get conquered than to actually win and have to pay America ruinous reparations forever. Brilliant.

I think that is Trump plan in case negotiations fail, in order for the US to continue to support Ukraine they will literally would have to become a US colony. So is either accept their losses or give what if left of their country to the US.

乘火打劫 seems like an approach Trump appreciates.

That was my thought as well, make it so egregiously awful for both Europe and Ukraine so that they would work out a deal with Russia themselves without the US's involvement. And I think this current administration is counting on both Ukraine and Europe will have short enough memory and too-empty treasuries after armistices to hold grudges and will come limping back to the US again shortly thereafter (at least within 2 years). If this does work, then it would be the US's version of "do nothing and call it a win".

The current US administration would like more of Europe to be led by men (or even lesbian women) who share their populist and alt-right tendencies.

To them, the ideal path forward isn't an amnesic Germany or forgetful France, but for these countries to reject their current leaders in favor of Trump-esque alternatives; and in all likelihood Trump believes dressing down, if not outright humiliating the likes of Macron and Scholz will contribute to their downfall.
 

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Baerbock lets slip: Billions for Ukraine after the election​

he EU is apparently putting together a multi-billion dollar package to buy military equipment for Ukraine. Bloomberg reports: "European officials are working on a new, sweeping package to increase defense spending and support Kiev as President Donald Trump pushes for a quick end tothe war in Ukraine." Apparently, EU circles know that this is a sensitive plan.

Bloomberg: "The spending plans will not be announced until after the German election on February 23 to avoid controversy before the vote, according to officials briefed on the plans." A select group of EU leaders were invited to Paris on Monday to begin drafting their response after US officials said in clear terms that the US wants Europeans to take action.

But Federal Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock rushed ahead and gave an insight into the scale. Baerbock hinted that it could be about 700 billion euros: "We will launch a large package that has never been seen on this scale before," Baerbock said in an interview with Bloomberg on the sidelines of the Munich meeting. "Similar to the euro or the corona crisis, there is now a financial package for security in Europe. That will come in the near future."

Speaking on Bloomberg Television on Monday, Lithuanian Defense Minister Dovile Sakaliene said the "realization that it is not the United States that will defend Europe, but that Europe will defend itself with the help of the United States" would dramatically change the security situation on the continent. "We need to spend quickly on defense, and spend a lot, hundreds of billions need to be spent immediately," she said. "We will all need to act quickly, including Germany."

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said the European proposal would focus on military training, speeding up aid efforts, arms deliveries and what Europe could offer in terms of security guarantees.

In a statement on the situation, Baerbock says that peace will only come through strength: "This requires tough and long-term security guarantees for Ukraine, a strong NATO and progress in Ukraine's accession negotiations to the European Union. As Europeans, as Germans, we stand firmly by Ukraine's side - with military, humanitarian and financial support.

Since the Russian invasion, we Europeans have supported Ukraine with a total of over 134 billion euros, Germany alone with almost 44 billion euros." Europe's strength "is based, despite all our differences, on our unity. We are going from Paris to Munich together with determination and determination."

Finally, Baerbock promises to invest more money in armaments and military equipment: "As Europeans, we will bear more responsibility for our own security. Because in view of the existential threat, a great joint effort is needed to secure our peace and prosperity.

With Corona, we saw what Europe is capable of. Investments are needed again that are appropriate to the historic milestone we are facing. No more - but certainly no less."

Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk and EU Commission President Irsula von der Leyen also leave no doubt that the answer to Donald Trump is more money for armaments:

"If we Europeans do not spend a lot of money on defense now, we will be forced to spend ten times more if we cannot prevent a major war," Tusk said on X. Upon her arrival in Paris, von der Leyen struck a similar tone, writing on X that "we need a mentality of urgency" and a "strengthening of defense" and "we need both now."

The EU states are not yet in full agreement on ground troops: Poland rejects the deployment of its own soldiers, while Great Britain and Sweden have signalled their willingness to do so. German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius said that German soldiers would be an option if the framework was right.

As with Corona, a new billion-euro package should be financed through joint debt if possible. Ideas like this have long been discussed. The problem: many EU countries are now experiencing payment difficulties due to the billions in Corona aid. They have to restructure their budgets, which usually only comes at the expense of social benefits.

On the European bond markets, yields for European government bonds rose on Monday, including those on German government bonds. This means that investors see it as riskier to invest in European countries.
Bloomberg: "The spending plans will not be announced until after the German election on February 23 to avoid controversy before the vote, according to officials briefed on the plans."
Baerbock hinted that it could be about 700 billion euros: "We will launch a large package that has never been seen on this scale before,"

The election is in less then a week. These people literally can’t keep their own plans secret.

On a side note, if this goes through. The EU economy and national budgets is going to be absolutely drained. An $735 billion USD package for military spending.
 

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The election is in less then a week. These people literally can’t keep their own plans secret.

On a side note, if this goes through. The EU economy and national budgets is going to be absolutely drained. An $735 billion USD package for military spending.
Thats on top of the multi hundred billion euro COVID recovery funds that EU raised through bonds.

Now put more than half trillion defence euros bonds on top for defence and EU would economically kill itself, no joke.

Member states already face big crises on the economic front. Now add (probably will happen) Trump trade war, Germany's continued deindustrialization, debt repayments starting for COVID recovery funds, demographics, immigration, welfare, energy prices etc.

Look a bit deeper, and you can see that more or less, they are imploding
 

FriedButter

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Now put more than half trillion defence euros bonds on top for defence and EU would economically kill itself, no joke.

Member states already face big crises on the economic front. Now add (probably will happen) Trump trade war, Germany's continued deindustrialization, debt repayments starting for COVID recovery funds, demographics, immigration, welfare, energy prices etc.

Deep cuts in social welfare and pensions is probably on the table, which in itself will cause immense domestic turmoil.
 

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乘火打劫 seems like an approach Trump appreciates.



The current US administration would like more of Europe to be led by men (or even lesbian women) who share their populist and alt-right tendencies.

To them, the ideal path forward isn't an amnesic Germany or forgetful France, but for these countries to reject their current leaders in favor of Trump-esque alternatives; and in all likelihood Trump believes dressing down, if not outright humiliating the likes of Macron and Scholz will contribute to their downfall.
did you read the Trump statement that i posted about kind of migrants US should get. that was in RT arabic. this can only happen when there is economic implosion in Europe. and JD Vance threat from with in.
when Arabs Gulf Monarchies look at Europe they see this kind of map.

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