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AssassinsMace
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There’s a point where the Western news media will ruin their own credibility if they keep reporting misinformation. Many Americans believe Chinese live in straw huts and have dirt roads. Now you have TikTok refugees making the news, there’s recognition that the US is lying to their own people about China.
proelite
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If DeepSeek were a closed source, it would be banned, and American AI would rule the rest of the world.
Currently, they can ban DeepSeek but the USA lost their AI moat.
In the case of Agibot open-sourcing the secrets, how is India going to make functional robots at an economical scale when they don't have the supply chain and the talent.
Software is easy for China, but somewhat harder for the rest of the world. Manufacturing is easy for China, but much harder for the rest of the world. China sharing open software does nothing to hurt China's core competency but hurts American core competency.
That's the attitude you should take if you think there are no more breakthrough coming in the future from Chinese AI companies. But given the track record so far why should anyone believe that? Seems more likely there will be many more revolutionary breakthroughs yet to come. Have some confidence in the home team. Instead of holding onto advantages like Americans and bet on no one else ever catching up instead consider the positive influence this would have on China the brand in general as demonstrated by:
Considering advances from Companies like Unitree, AgiBot etc I'm thinking China also has the most to benefiting turning any advances in AI into actual productive force, instead of just chatbots
Lastly I have to quote that scene from Let the Bullets Fly again because that scene is exactly what's happening here:
I wonder what was Kim Jong-un's first prompt to his locally hosted DeepSeek R1.
one tweet. whoopee..
I can't see the case for open sourcing. Deepseek would have won across the board without open sourcing. Now, they are in a weaker position - still strong - but I suspect weaker than if they were closed source.
They can't enforce that ban. They can can it from the app store. Who cares. With the amount of money saved from switching, businesses that want to switch will find a way. So again, Deepseek could have held onto their moat AND defeat usa's planned techno-feudalism AND make money, etc.
I can't see the case for open sourcing. Deepseek would have won across the board without open sourcing. Now, they are in a weaker position - still strong - but I suspect weaker than if they were closed source.
Well this is bad news.
As I said before, I work in the wearable electronics industry. If you know anything about this stuff, you understand the implications of privacy violations and surveillance this technology opens up. We can already map biometric data from heart activity sensors, electrodermal activity sensors, accelerometers, and piezoelectric sensors to identities. All this under the guise of healthcare monitoring.
Earlier today, we were pitched an idea: proximity based communication tying biometric data to location and time. Explicitly, relaying identifying information to nearby smartphones running lightweight AI models to collect and organize this data before sending it off to a database.
It's a shame that distilled AI models are already being used to oppress.
As I said before, I work in the wearable electronics industry. If you know anything about this stuff, you understand the implications of privacy violations and surveillance this technology opens up. We can already map biometric data from heart activity sensors, electrodermal activity sensors, accelerometers, and piezoelectric sensors to identities. All this under the guise of healthcare monitoring.
Earlier today, we were pitched an idea: proximity based communication tying biometric data to location and time. Explicitly, relaying identifying information to nearby smartphones running lightweight AI models to collect and organize this data before sending it off to a database.
It's a shame that distilled AI models are already being used to oppress.
proelite
Junior Member
How do businesses and folks in the West use DeepSeek if DeepSeek's API and app is banned? Business will follow the law and regular folks won't be bothered to use VPN.