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I have a "joke". How can you measure how nationalistic/political a Vietnamese person is? Ask them if they are celebrating Chinese new year. If their head explodes 10 feet into the air - cares a lot. Their head stays on their neck/0 - does not care.
On point 2. The great general of Vietnam at that time, his ancestry cane be traced directly to Fujian. Actually many of their emperors could. Vietnam also saw themselves as "civilized people" since they had adopted Chinese culture/writing, and this was one of the excuses the emperors used to fight the wars against the neighbouring Cham people. This history is trying to be rewritten by the current regime.
"the peak of production will soon be passed, possibly within 3 years."
David White, chief geologist of the , 1919 AD
Trying to model peak anything is a waste of time. So yes, despite your snarky response, I have heard of it and how useless it is. But you don't seem to think it is useless modeling these things, and would rather China just reduce it's population to 100 million or something to save the world in case we do hit peak oil.
Screw that. China will not 'save the world' at her own expense while the US grows to 1 billion people. China is already rapidly installing renewables and will probably not even use fossil fuels in 50 years, so your point is moot anyway.
Why don't you go ask the Western countries to reduce their population before you ask China?
US is more likely to shrink to 100 million than to grow to one billion
In the age of AI, income is decoupled from work or labor. Having more people is no longer correlated to greater national wealth or output...
Maplesoft slogan is what? The brilliance of 1000 Minds in one math software package...
Machines do all the work, and humans enjoy a distributed income.... it makes sense in UBI society that population must be controlled if per capita living standards are to be maintained at quality level
Read up on exponential growth and doubling times... left unchecked, even with nuclear fusion the world will still exceed its energy cap
If China wants to be the next India then by all means go ahead and overpopulate even more... but it should be focused on tech ascenion while cutting its population..... Quality not quantity
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AssassinsMace
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Let me remind everyone the media lies and manipulates. For example recently the news reported that Biden was going have the US boycott the Beijing Winter Olympics. Then the State Department had to come out to say there was no such discussion. This shows you the media will say things that only aren't true, they will lie hoping to set policy not reporting the news. You don't think Japan remembers how Obama told them to tackle China over island disputes assuming the US will back them. Then trade between the two dropped like a rock. Japan went into a recession while China didn't feel a thing. Then instead of Western allies supporting Japan, they took advantage and replaced Japan's lost share of the Chinese market. It's why Obama's Pivot to Asia failed. Biden was Vice-President to Obama... Or are the Japanese racist hence why they think it's different? Just like earlier the story suggesting that just because Suga is the first world leader to meet Biden personally, it means it's officially recognizing the establishment of a G2. The US and Japan are not the number one and two economies of the world. It's fake symbolism because the US doesn't need Japan to affect world economics to suggest they're that important. Their economy went into recession in a dispute with just China.
Just look at North Korea. The US and Asians allies are afraid of North Korea. It has no economic power so they're afraid how North Korea's military can screw their economies. China can do a lot more and a lot worse if they attempt to destroy China's economy. So are they really openly talking about undermining China to focus China's ire at them or is it just the media's wishful thinking speaking for others like they usually do? It's the US's arrogance to think other countries will sacrifice themselves for whatever the US wants. What country wants to be next door to China when they're actively helping the US undermine China? All those military toys that the US brags about having... mostly protects the US. China's neighbors' economic infrastructure are much more vulnerable to attack. You know like the US said China making man-made island in the South China Sea means they can hold the world economy hostage because they can control trade flow. China can do that simply because it's the factory to the world. No need for man-made islands to do that. They feel more secure with a giant North Korea that can screw them over more than the real North Korea they fear now? Sounds like an American who normally doesn't think of how much allies will suffer for what they want.
Just look at North Korea. The US and Asians allies are afraid of North Korea. It has no economic power so they're afraid how North Korea's military can screw their economies. China can do a lot more and a lot worse if they attempt to destroy China's economy. So are they really openly talking about undermining China to focus China's ire at them or is it just the media's wishful thinking speaking for others like they usually do? It's the US's arrogance to think other countries will sacrifice themselves for whatever the US wants. What country wants to be next door to China when they're actively helping the US undermine China? All those military toys that the US brags about having... mostly protects the US. China's neighbors' economic infrastructure are much more vulnerable to attack. You know like the US said China making man-made island in the South China Sea means they can hold the world economy hostage because they can control trade flow. China can do that simply because it's the factory to the world. No need for man-made islands to do that. They feel more secure with a giant North Korea that can screw them over more than the real North Korea they fear now? Sounds like an American who normally doesn't think of how much allies will suffer for what they want.
Denmark charges 3 members of [Saudi-backed] Iranian separatist group "Arab Struggle Movement for the Liberation of Ahvaz" (ASMLA), for financing and supporting terrorism in Iran in collaboration with Saudi Arabian intelligence services
Denmark's public prosecutor said on Thursday it had charged three members of an Iranian Arab opposition [separatist] group for financing and supporting terrorist activity in Iran in collaboration with Saudi Arabian intelligence services.
The three members of the Arab Struggle Movement for the Liberation of Ahvaz (ASMLA) were arrested in February last year and have been in custody since.
"This is a very serious case where persons in Denmark have carried out illegal intelligence activities and financed and promoted terrorism from Denmark in other countries," public prosecutor Lise-Lotte Nilas said in a statement.
The trial will start on April 29 and will be held in the Roskilde district court. The defendants face prison sentences of up to 12 years.
In 2018, this Saudi-backed terrorist group carried out a terrorist bombing in Ahwaz, killing 25 people including children and civilians.
Denmark's public prosecutor said on Thursday it had charged three members of an Iranian Arab opposition [separatist] group for financing and supporting terrorist activity in Iran in collaboration with Saudi Arabian intelligence services.
The three members of the Arab Struggle Movement for the Liberation of Ahvaz (ASMLA) were arrested in February last year and have been in custody since.
"This is a very serious case where persons in Denmark have carried out illegal intelligence activities and financed and promoted terrorism from Denmark in other countries," public prosecutor Lise-Lotte Nilas said in a statement.
The trial will start on April 29 and will be held in the Roskilde district court. The defendants face prison sentences of up to 12 years.
In 2018, this Saudi-backed terrorist group carried out a terrorist bombing in Ahwaz, killing 25 people including children and civilians.
You still keep talking about some radical future as if you KNOW what's going to happen. Some tech utopia with complete automation of the labor force and Neuralinked AGI god-beings is possible but it's not worth throwing an entire nations bet on.
Everyone in the world recognizes the aging problem as a huge threat to their economic and military future, the West saw it as so catastrophic that they began importing hundreds of millions of people from the 3rd World. China will never do that and must create children internally. This is an existentialist threat to China considering the entire Western world may decide to snuff her out if they got the chance by having a bigger population and therefore possibly more economic and military resources.
And with that you show your delusion. The current population growth rate of the US is almost double China's. Not a single professional who has spent their career forecasting future populations would ever say what you said, but I guess you know more than all of them. The Medium-scenario is half a billion people in the US and 1 billion in China by end-century. Those may already be outdated with some projecting 1 billion Americans.
Now I will agree that the quality of those people is far less than that China's people, but I will not agree that for example a poor destitute incompetent country like India is in a worse position militarily than say Netherlands. India could extinguish Dutch if they bordered them in 1 month if they so chose. Allowing other countries to narrow the gap with the HOPE that the techno-utopia comes about is so foolish it is madness.
If it DOES come about then great, we can focus on reducing (or even increasing if resource constraints are now removed) the population, but betting on it now like some degenerate gambler, with a nations future, is worse than any policy I've ever heard of.
At the its heights the American was 5% world population consuming 50% world resources...
For the last 30 years the real standard of living for the average American has been steadily declining...
to the point there is mass shooting every other day, and race riots everywhere you look, and tent shitties in every major urban city or metroplex in the USA... the nation is falling apart at the seams because Americans have gotten used to a high standard of living but now the American dream has become the American nightmare... this is because real inflation is already near 15% a year, and had minimum wage kept up with true inflation it would be $36/hr today, not a pathetic $7.25
The US prison population has skyrocket America locks up more people than any other country in the world and due to the 13th of the US constitution it allows for legal slavery at 40 cents per the hour... and recently Senators like gold looting Cotton stated that America has massive underincarcation problem and need to be locking up far far more people...
The US is already imploding... and you want to increase its population by another factor of three?
Which, even if its real GDP PPP was to stay the same (in the age of Peak oil and now that global hydrocarbon production has in fact peaked and in decline since 2018 and nothing will make up for the shortfall in the next few decades) that would immediately reduce the US GDP per capita to 1/3 of what it is now....
A meal at McDonald's would cost $30 while you would have to work a whole day just to afford a lunch
A flight overseas would cost $50000 in basic economy and most average Americans would have to work 10 lifetimes to manage to save up that much in this society
That nation is not falling apart because of population growth what are you on about. It's falling apart because its human capital stinks. Those are not one and the same.
Australia has the highest population growth rate in the Western World, you probably think it's on the bring of collapse or will be if it continues this path, yet they are trying to turn it into another America over the long-term (excluding that lowest rung of human capital the US is now stuck with for all time). And yet if we are alive in your techno-future immortal world in 100 years we are gonna be fucking cursing our 'luck' about the USA (United States of Australia), with it's couple hundred million Anglos that now have to be dealt with in addition to the US if it's still functioning. Great!
It won't be luck though, we know it's happening right before our very own eyes, but we have people today right now denying the reality.
Look, Chinese are capable people and I don't think having less of them is going to be the solution until we really do have the tech you claim is going to exist (with apparently 100% certainty on your part). You are gambling with the demographic future of the Chinese people. You want to end up like Japan?
Japanese have been coping this same shit since the 1980s, about the robots that are coming to save them any day now from aging. How's Japan looking now? With each passing decade the relative power difference between them and the US expands. People forget that Japan had close the population of the US at one point! And had the level of economic influence that pretty much equaled it!