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zyklon

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If i recall, the Japanese first proposed such a space station but because they are vassals and slaves of anglo zionists who are insecure about their supposed mental superiority and presumed racial supremacy, they forbade the Japanese to build it. Now, you can bet that if China is proposing such a space station, then China will build it.

Additionally, such a space station could also function as a space based laser like the Ion Cannon in Command & Conquer

Sounds like someone is looking to build a solar array on top of an orbital belt roughly 265,000 km long and 1 km wide.

Incredibly ambitious, but definitely in the right direction if human civilization is ever to construct a Dyson sphere!

Anyone got a rough idea on how much something like this would weigh? Guesstimating program launch costs could be fun . . .
 

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China is like the Japan of that bygone era. Look at the love of technology. The love of sci-fi and great far-reaching ideas.

The difference is the scale and the ability to execute on that scale.

Because of that ability to execute on a grand scale this generation will see some amazing things.

The Lunar Base, this Solar Power Station in Orbit and the Space Elevator (
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All of these ideas have been proposed long ago in science fiction in the West however these grand projects require determination and adequate funding over however many years it may take to construct. That is next to impossible given the election cycles in the West especially when the project seems to have no immediate return on investment, making it an easy target for critics who can then bemoan the seeming waste of money.
 

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Sounds like someone is looking to build a solar array on top of an orbital belt roughly 265,000 km long and 1 km wide.

Incredibly ambitious, but definitely in the right direction if human civilization is ever to construct a Dyson sphere!

Anyone got a rough idea on how much something like this would weigh? Guesstimating program launch costs could be fun . . .
Several years with CZ-9 launching at regular intervals. It's planned to be by far the largest spacecraft ever built - and at synchronous altitudes so you can't just take the LEO values of the rocket. 150t LEO capacity probably lets you less than half to GTO. Maybe by then China will have figured out some sort of space tug to take payloads to higher orbits.

Best reference we have right now is Tiangong or ISS. It will be many multiples of that.
 

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First Ursula I hope you didn't hurt the wolves that ate your precious pony(circle of life et al )and a belated Happy New Year to my tungzhi here,had a craving for pistachios-didn't know why-now I do"Law of Unintended Consequences" in action >>> Chinese love of pistachios>greedy,amoral billionaire couple uses their money/political pull to corner water in California to satisfy agro needs of pistachio farms>wildfire erupts >no water,massive incompetence,infrastructure deficits etc are exposed>LA in ashes>more importantly Chinese get their pistachios>CHYNNNA!!!
 
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The Strange Triumph of a Broken America​


Why Power Abroad Comes With Dysfunction at Home​

A long article about the US divided politically but maintaining constancy in terms of national power (economic, financial, political, diplomatic, military and cultural), with clear criticism of the new president.

I believe that Trump has much greater clarity in terms of where the US is going and what to do to change it, Trump's current stated intentions regarding the Panama Canal, Canada and Greenland are an attempt to seize a greater sphere of American dominance in the Western Hemisphere and are a direct consequence of the outcome of the Ukraine War.

It is a loss of global hegemony to the inexorable realities of a multipolar world of balance of powers. The empire is crumbling and the US is simply moving fast to secure strategic depth in its own neighborhood. It is worth remembering that with the melting of the ice, huge areas of Canada will become more habitable and exploitable, as will Greenland which also allows control of the Arctic sea routes that could be the new South China Sea.

This is Trump making America a superstate. Strategically, this makes perfect sense, if that is exactly the political objective. The plan is very clear:

To transform the United States into a superstate with a territory of 20 million km2, a GDP greater than that of China, endowed with immense resources of its own and controlling almost all sea routes, including half of the Arctic, contrary to all Russian interests in the region. This continental superpower will become a global power without the expense of a global presence, will control its entire strategic environment and emerge into a new multipolar world.
 

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A long article about the US divided politically but maintaining constancy in terms of national power (economic, financial, political, diplomatic, military and cultural), with clear criticism of the new president.

I believe that Trump has much greater clarity in terms of where the US is going and what to do to change it, Trump's current stated intentions regarding the Panama Canal, Canada and Greenland are an attempt to seize a greater sphere of American dominance in the Western Hemisphere and are a direct consequence of the outcome of the Ukraine War.

It is a loss of global hegemony to the inexorable realities of a multipolar world of balance of powers. The empire is crumbling and the US is simply moving fast to secure strategic depth in its own neighborhood. It is worth remembering that with the melting of the ice, huge areas of Canada will become more habitable and exploitable, as will Greenland which also allows control of the Arctic sea routes that could be the new South China Sea.

This is Trump making America a superstate. Strategically, this makes perfect sense, if that is exactly the political objective. The plan is very clear:

To transform the United States into a superstate with a territory of 20 million km2, a GDP greater than that of China, endowed with immense resources of its own and controlling almost all sea routes, including half of the Arctic, contrary to all Russian interests in the region. This continental superpower will become a global power without the expense of a global presence, will control its entire strategic environment and emerge into a new multipolar world.
Getting Canada, Greenland and even Mexico added on to US would still not be sufficient to pass China economically though.

If US can get all Mexicans to USA GDP per capita levels, then they might approach China's size. But this would take a long time if even possible and be contingent on China not growing at all.

I think with US having friction with EU, being possibly forced to work on massive annexation projects and UN losing all power, it gives China a much better than ever ground condition to bring Asia under control.

Korea, Japan, the indochina peninsula and Indonesia, just some of them under total Chinese political/economic control will solve all future conceivable problems for Beijing. None of these countries are powerful, especially not the southeast Asian ones.

Nothing's stopping those transport aircraft from supplying future PLA strike forces deep into North America, and Greenland.
The armies of ASEAN still mostly consist of equipment that wouldn't be out of place in the Korean war. In the face of drone warfare, VLO platforms and massive airlift capability, it's hard to see anyone being able to fight back.

When US is goaded into multiple western civil conflicts and also provoked into a war with Iran, China should blitz through western colonies in Asia which will bring 500 million+ people into indirect control of China.
 

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A long article about the US divided politically but maintaining constancy in terms of national power (economic, financial, political, diplomatic, military and cultural), with clear criticism of the new president.

I believe that Trump has much greater clarity in terms of where the US is going and what to do to change it, Trump's current stated intentions regarding the Panama Canal, Canada and Greenland are an attempt to seize a greater sphere of American dominance in the Western Hemisphere and are a direct consequence of the outcome of the Ukraine War.

It is a loss of global hegemony to the inexorable realities of a multipolar world of balance of powers. The empire is crumbling and the US is simply moving fast to secure strategic depth in its own neighborhood. It is worth remembering that with the melting of the ice, huge areas of Canada will become more habitable and exploitable, as will Greenland which also allows control of the Arctic sea routes that could be the new South China Sea.

This is Trump making America a superstate. Strategically, this makes perfect sense, if that is exactly the political objective. The plan is very clear:

To transform the United States into a superstate with a territory of 20 million km2, a GDP greater than that of China, endowed with immense resources of its own and controlling almost all sea routes, including half of the Arctic, contrary to all Russian interests in the region. This continental superpower will become a global power without the expense of a global presence, will control its entire strategic environment and emerge into a new multipolar world.
that is the ambition of the USA but whether they can carry out such a plan with the USA as broken as it is, is quite a different story. You can bet your bottom dollar that just because the USA wants this and that doesn’t mean they will get such things given how in merely two weeks into 2025, the USA has already suffered multiple disasters already which compared to all previous years is quite frankly insane. These pipe dreams require years of preparation and investment and resources which the USA as of now has been sapped of from all these wars and engagements in the last four years. If anything happens in the coming month to Trump or even Biden, Trump can quite frankly kiss these plans goodbye since while Trump would love to have all these resources, like the people hit by the fires in LA, none of these benefits will ever reach the people, the ones that should matter. It’s like stockpile all these resources but ultimately making nothing from them but trying to show off how rich they are to spite the world. Trump wanting manufacturing back in the USA is impossible simply because all the industry required to even begin these venture requires decades to prepare, which the USA obviously doesn’t have remotely any time left before it all falls apart.
 
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