But quim reads this as:2003-2008: 100% of Ukraine was pro west, invading Iraq alongside NATO, had population of 50 million and was already applying to NATO.
2024: 83% of Ukrainian territory remains, it is highly unlikely to project power like it could in 2003, it has population <35 million, is now the poorest country in Europe, and it is still applying to NATO.
But according to you, Ukraine is winning.
It is a very unusual definition of winning when Ukraine can no longer project power like it could 20 years ago, lost 1/3 of its population to displacement or conquest, and diplomatically has not improved even 1% since 2008.
- I win 35M pop, you win 15M, therefore, I win
- I was applying 21 years ago, and still have not stopped applying today; I am still getting my way, therefore, I win
- I have 2/3 of my population, you have 1/3 of my population, therefore, I win
- Diplomatically I am still within 99% of my state in 2008, therefor....