my response was very specific regarding Syria and India in scmp. the whole piece was inaccurate by giving undue importance to Syria. how many world leaders have Modi received standing at stairs of plane and than bringing whole city on the roads?. i have previously mentioned in this thread only Gulf Arabs can create greater India and Israel. you can already see the result in Syria.
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AssassinsMace
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China is now in a malaise? What happened to collapse and panic? They have to change the narrative, aka spin, because nothing of the sort is happening. It’s all about covering up uncertainty in the US. It would be a huge blow to Western egos if China is just doing okay while the West is not. The West is the one in panic just by narrative alone. If China is just doing okay while the West is not is devastating because it’s showing to the world you don’t need the US and the West. Countries won’t be looking to them. This is not to say China is the model for the world. All it says doing it like the West isn’t the only way and that’s what the US and the West need to make people around the world to believe. Because that’s the only way the West can fool people into letting them control the world. Especially with what’s happening today where former colonies of the West are rejecting the West. You listen to Westerners and they look down at the global south being able to amount to anything without them. But these are the countries that have all the strategic resources that they need to be first world economies hence why the West tried to takeover the world because they have what they need. It’s no coincidence today that most Western countries’ economies are in dire straits. Even the US is dependent on allies for its power in the world and if they’re not strong, the US is not.
The West is in a fragile position because they could just use violence like how they got to power in this world in the first place but the other side has nukes too. So today the West has to manipulate and lie to get countries to follow which includes lying about how the alternative to them, China, their competition to those very strategic resources they need, is doing in order to turn them away from China. That shows you the reality because the world with the resources the West needs will sell to whoever has the money to pay for them more than the other and that ain’t the US and the West.
A lot of whining in the West over what China is really spending on its military. Does that matter? If China is as wasteful as the US, all that means the less money China has to spend on other important things like what happens in the US. Isn’t that suppose to be a good thing since many in the US want to treat China like Reagan did with Soviet Union? Bankrupt them by spending so much in having to keep up with the US. But China is not only spending on its military but also its own infrastructure and in other countries. Something the US can’t do.
Just like it ain’t only about the military, look at how the US has long used the US auto industry as a gauge of how well the US economy overall is doing. Why? Because to make a car involves so many others industries that if they’re doing well then a large portion of the economy is doing well because of the trickle-down effect. Chinese EVs and what cars Chinese choose to buy are destroying Western auto titans at home and abroad but somehow it doesn’t say anything of how well China’s economy is doing? And it’s not just cars alone in China. China is a continent size market for everything. All things the West leads in will be reduced to memory and they know that. And how does the West measure how China is doing? By how well they’re doing making money from China. What’s happening domestically doesn’t count to them because they want to believe everyone needs them in order to be successful in life.
The West is in a fragile position because they could just use violence like how they got to power in this world in the first place but the other side has nukes too. So today the West has to manipulate and lie to get countries to follow which includes lying about how the alternative to them, China, their competition to those very strategic resources they need, is doing in order to turn them away from China. That shows you the reality because the world with the resources the West needs will sell to whoever has the money to pay for them more than the other and that ain’t the US and the West.
A lot of whining in the West over what China is really spending on its military. Does that matter? If China is as wasteful as the US, all that means the less money China has to spend on other important things like what happens in the US. Isn’t that suppose to be a good thing since many in the US want to treat China like Reagan did with Soviet Union? Bankrupt them by spending so much in having to keep up with the US. But China is not only spending on its military but also its own infrastructure and in other countries. Something the US can’t do.
Just like it ain’t only about the military, look at how the US has long used the US auto industry as a gauge of how well the US economy overall is doing. Why? Because to make a car involves so many others industries that if they’re doing well then a large portion of the economy is doing well because of the trickle-down effect. Chinese EVs and what cars Chinese choose to buy are destroying Western auto titans at home and abroad but somehow it doesn’t say anything of how well China’s economy is doing? And it’s not just cars alone in China. China is a continent size market for everything. All things the West leads in will be reduced to memory and they know that. And how does the West measure how China is doing? By how well they’re doing making money from China. What’s happening domestically doesn’t count to them because they want to believe everyone needs them in order to be successful in life.
In4ser
Junior Member
It might be better for others to think that way. As Sun Tzu says, “when weak, appear strong and when strong appear weak.”
If China is triumphant and beating its chest on success while the rest of the world is suffering, it attracts unwelcome attention and anger. Similar to the sentiments of many ex-Syrians assigning responsibility of why China isn’t helping the rest of us suffering if they’re doing well or even worse assign blame and hate for their own failures because of envy of Chinese success and need to have scapegoats.
Nations like people are petty and selfish and often times it’s important to read the room and stay back than to steal the spotlight and be dragged into gossip and schemes even if it means to pretend that China is only doing okay if not worse than it actually is in reality.
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You're analyzing how Iranians don't support China because an American organization told you Iranians think that.
Think about that for a minute.
I don't think this is real. If it was there would have been at least some large-scale fighting which never happened, we literally see more air strikes from Israel on Syria now than Syria ever did themselves against the rebels. Assad probably had a deal with the west and gulf states which was for him to leave and for sanctions to stop and economic aid for Syria. It's pretty clear that he never intended to fight, and considering the fact he had rapprochement with Arab league literally last year, a deal with the west and gulf states seem most likely.
supercat
Major
Been there, done that!
Well, at least Xi can read, unlike many Americans.
LMAO - Din Tai Fung already closed all of its 14 stores in China.
Good to know - Germany is committing national suicide.
It's true, America is the world's biggest problem and Trump can very much work with China to solve that problem.
Is he trying to woo Xi to his 2nd inauguration? Xi already rejected him once.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
This is a reply to In4ser’s reply to me. For some reason hitting reply the normal way ain’t working.
I’d rather have China act strong. What’s the point of looking weak especially when you’re not? The Chinese way of thinking is so people don’t pay attention to you. Sorry that doesn’t work for China. China is too big to ignore. The US wants China to look weak for a reason. If China looks strong economically, the less countries are going to go along with the US because that’s the point why the US wants to portray China as weak so they act accordingly against China as it wishes. Why would China help the US make themselves look weak? You want the US to look wrong so everyone sees they aren’t right so no one listens to them. Helping the US look right doesn’t help China.
I’d rather have China act strong. What’s the point of looking weak especially when you’re not? The Chinese way of thinking is so people don’t pay attention to you. Sorry that doesn’t work for China. China is too big to ignore. The US wants China to look weak for a reason. If China looks strong economically, the less countries are going to go along with the US because that’s the point why the US wants to portray China as weak so they act accordingly against China as it wishes. Why would China help the US make themselves look weak? You want the US to look wrong so everyone sees they aren’t right so no one listens to them. Helping the US look right doesn’t help China.
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