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ACuriousPLAFan

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coolgod

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Does the bill to rebuild Syria now fall on erdogan's and trumps lap. I mean maybe Russia and Iran will have the last laugh.


Less so, I think the world completely change but more importantly xinjiang has been completely changed. But if I was China I would install more border control and surveillance.
Those Uigher terrorists might not make it to Xinjiang, but they can definitely make it to Central Asia. It's a good thing China is experimenting with overseas military companies now.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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I don't particularly care to navel-gaze at the specifics of the Syrian government or Iran or Russia's failings in this humanitarian debacle when there are seismic consequences for China itself that may not be immediately apparent to many. It's bad news for China, to put it plainly, if the Syrian government has truly fallen to this lot.
Yeah, no. There are no seismic consequences - or consequences of any detectable magnitude - to China from a country as marginal as Syria. If you want to talk about China's role in the Middle East, start by addressing the fact that China does orders of magnitude more business with the Gulf petro-monarchies like the UAE and Saudi Arabia than it does with Iran and its vassals.

If you want to write about someone's consequences, write about Russia's. Assad was a Russian/Iranian project of zero Chinese interest. The only Russian interest were the ports in the Med, but frankly the token naval presence there wasn't scaring anybody, especially not after Ukraine smacked the Black Sea fleet.
It'll have merit when these people get enough sense to source their communications equipment from China instead of Taiwan and Japan.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Does the bill to rebuild Syria now fall on erdogan's and trumps lap. I mean maybe Russia and Iran will have the last laugh.


Less so, I think the world completely change but more importantly xinjiang has been completely changed. But if I was China I would install more border control and surveillance.
they don't have to rebuild anything beyond the minimum needed for colonial extraction. see Libya. they learned their lesson from Iraq.

China can crush internal instability, so direct threats are unlikely to manifest. The big one is cutting of an alternative potential supply line that does not pass through Turkey. There's the northern path through Russia, but the southern path has always been troublesome.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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ismellcopium

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unless the "not-Al-Qaeda" regime breaks with Turkey and eliminates the Uyghur jihadist terrorists
Honestly, you might be surprised. Remember that the Uyghurs fought together with the Taliban in Afghanistan too, now look at them. At the end of the day Syria needs reconstruction even more desperately than Afghanistan and there's only one country in the world which can provide it better than any other. The TIP is of no use to anyone once their military utility has expired, there's a reason international recognition of ROC vs PRC is what it is after all.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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FairAndUnbiased

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Honestly, you might be surprised. Remember that the Uyghurs fought together with the Taliban in Afghanistan too, now look at them. At the end of the day Syria needs reconstruction even more desperately than Afghanistan and there's only one country in the world which can provide it better than any other. The TIP is of no use to anyone once their military utility has expired, there's a reason international recognition of ROC vs PRC is what it is after all.
Just because China is good at constructing infrastructure, what makes you think that China will do so for free? Private companies from China are free to invest there if they want to risk their own money and lives, but good luck finding them. What makes you think that private companies greatly enjoy low profits and high risk?

What is the case for Chinese state owned companies, backed by the tax dollars and prestige of the Chinese government, to operate there, at risk to the Chinese people and state? An attack on a Chinese state owned company is literally an attack on the government of China, you tell me, whether that risk is worth the pennies that operating in Syria is worth.

WTF is this entitlement from people thinking that China is obligated to do construction for free in hostile countries? The fuck is this shit? Are Chinese global coolies or something?
 

pmc

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f you want to write about someone's consequences, write about Russia's. Assad was a Russian/Iranian project of zero Chinese interest. The only Russian interest were the ports in the Med, but frankly the token naval presence there wasn't scaring anybody, especially not after Ukraine smacked the Black Sea fleet.
Ukraine cannot hit a single modern Russian vessel that is operating in closed water of Black Sea despite Nato air Surveillance. where do you think these Cruise missiles are routinely lunched?. Everything is demonstrated and counted for those who has greater Soft Power. No Navy has ever launched this many missiles from a small area. Gulf Arabs are involved prisoner exchanges and every thing else so they dont want to inform Ukranains they get first hand reports but they make sure they publish in there main internal news indirect way.

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