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South Korea's Yoon tells China's Xi cooperation needed on Russia, North Korea​




Joke of the day :p

Guess Yoon took Zelensky's message to heart.

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'A war of two countries against one' — Zelensky urges Western allies to take decisive action on North Korean troop involvement​

So this is why multiple media simultaneously report "north korean in Ukraine" misinformation. To justify more aid to Ukraine and to slander China.
 

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Hmm what's going on in South Korea and Hungary? Do Hungary boomers have more communist nostalgia?
I dunno about Hungary but with South Korea its quite simple. SK despite claiming its different has a massive overlap with China in what they compete in.

As a young person over there, as China rises you see South Korea going back to the old days where it was vassal state of China. Whether its the Mongolians, Chinese or Manchus, all of them are bad for Koreans. Doesn't matter which guy is in charge of SK, they are not blind to this. Its just SK is controlled by the US at the moment so they cannot swap to China's side.

I remember reading about about South Korea has all this soft power a few years back. Now we already seeing it decline as people can see through the illusion since South Korea's hard power is declining.

In the China Semiconductor thread, we see Samsung is already in trouble with regards to semiconductors and TSMC's lead over them is widening. Because of sanctions for China, Samsung suddenly is going to lose a lot of business. Then lets not forget Samsung phones are no longer as cool when people realize buying a cheaper China phone that can still do most things is better value for money. The crown Jewel of South Korea which we thought was safe now finds itself in a hard position. And its due to either forms of Chinese.

Then we see its actual results in sports. SK really only has its football team left. Did you know SK won the first Table Tennis Men's gold at the Olympics? Hard to believe given China's dominance. But even if SK started well, its now China's game. Same applies to a lot of other sports. To SK, China is that great wall that prevents its athletes from obtaining gold. They can make cartoons saying they won Gold at the Olympics in swimming but in real life we know Pan Zhanle won the 100m.

So to young people in SK, they are asking if only China was still weak and poor, we would stand out and be on top! No amount of KPOP can wash away this. And speaking of which, since BTS is on hiatus, the other artists cannot carry the KPOP weight and therefore people will gradually lose interest.
 

azn_cyniq

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I remember reading about about South Korea has all this soft power a few years back. Now we already seeing it decline as people can see through the illusion since South Korea's hard power is declining.


So to young people in SK, they are asking if only China was still weak and poor, we would stand out and be on top! No amount of KPOP can wash away this. And speaking of which, since BTS is on hiatus, the other artists cannot carry the KPOP weight and therefore people will gradually lose interest.
I don’t dislike K-pop, but it’s just American popular music in a different language. It’s completely disinteresting to me and frankly, it’s not that popular here in the United States. Ironically, China has had a far, far larger influence on Western popular culture through TikTok.

China is outcompeting South Korea in most of its stronghold industries (home appliances, displays, shipbuilding, smartphones, telecommunications, automobiles, batteries). China’s semiconductor industry may completely eclipse South Korea’s within a decade or two.

If I was a low-IQ South Korean, I would absolutely despise China.
 
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I don’t dislike K-pop, but it’s just American popular music in a different language. It’s completely disinteresting to me and frankly, it’s not that popular here in the United States. Ironically, China has had a far, far larger influence on Western popular culture through TikTok.

China is outcompeting South Korea in most of its stronghold industries (home appliances, displays, shipbuilding, smartphones, telecommunications, automobiles, batteries). China’s semiconductor industry may completely eclipse South Korea’s within a decade or two.

If I was a low-IQ South Korean, I would absolutely despise China.
If you were a SKorean Nationalist born in 70-80s you would be quite sad as you were overshadowed by the Japanese till the late 90s and when you were getting finally getting your time in the sun during the late 2000s to first half of the 2010s, suddenly China comes out of nowhere and starts dunking on your supposed strengths. Under 10 years is basically nothing in the timeline of a nation.
 

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Not sure if this was posted before but another Pew Research survey.

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As always, read critically with the understanding that it is not a purely objective publication.

Consistently though, youth report far better views of China than boomers.

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So all Latin American countries that were surveyed have a net-positive opinion on China but none of them have confidence in President Xi to do the right thing regarding world affairs ...

Interestingly, it's the opposite with Philippines. Only 34% Filipinos have positive opinion of China, but 45% have confidence in President Xi.
 
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azn_cyniq

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If you were a SKorean Nationalist born in 70-80s you would be quite sad as you were overshadowed by the Japanese till the late 90s and when you were getting finally getting your time in the sun during the late 2000s to first half of the 2010s, suddenly China comes out of nowhere and starts dunking on your supposed strengths. Under 10 years is basically nothing in the timeline of a nation.
Yeah…the fact that TSMC, a company from Taiwan, is worth almost as much as the top 100 South Korean companies combined must be sobering for them. If they cannot outcompete 23 million Chinese people in such an important industry, then outcompeting 1.4 billion Chinese people will be incredibly difficult.
 

ansy1968

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So all Latin American countries that were surveyed have a net-positive opinion on China but none of them have confidence in President Xi to do the right thing regarding world affairs ...

Interestingly, it's the opposite with Philippines. Only 34% Filipinos have positive opinion of China, but 45% have confidence in President Xi.
Did I miss something? where did they take the survey? FYI 18% of the population are Chinoy (native born pure Chinese) 37% are mestizos (half Chinese either 75%,50% or 25%) so if you add it up it doesn't compute, maybe they take their que from the Indians and use the Vedic system...lol PLUS Metro Manila doesn't represent the whole of the Philippines, 60% of the population live in the rural area and in abject poverty, they don't engage in politics because surviving and feeding their families are their number one priority. Like A day in the life of a feudal oligarchy society.
 
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