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LOL That's fucking stupid; do they just beg for things now instead of trading or dealing for them? Macron's vulnerability was liquor so he asked Xi not to target liquor and then went to start the conflict anyway?! It'd be way smarter to just shut up and not mention it! That's like Israel tweeting to Iran with an address NOT to hit because all the Mossad fuckers are gonna be taking refuge there, and then launching a few rockets at Iran to kick things off. Seriously I think common sense has gone down a lot in the Western world.
Yes that's exactly it.

Is this even the real world lmao
Bunch of clowns in France
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Paris accused China’s President Xi Jinping of breaking a
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he had made to French President Emmanuel Macron
of not imposing temporary duties during a visit to Paris last May.
“I find these measures incomprehensible. There is no justification for them,” said France’s Junior Trade Minister Sophie Primas.

“We are very disappointed by this announcement, which goes against the commitment made by President Xi during his visit to France,” she said via written statements to POLITICO.

“I will soon be attending the G20 Summit in Brasília, where I will be taking the opportunity to hold a dialogue with my Chinese counterpart. I'm ready to go to China to put forward our positions,” she added.
 

supersnoop

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So with a new government, Indonesia tariffed Chinese EVs, invited Australia military chips to sail in its waters, now bans Chinese apps. So much for being neutral. Why don't they ban amazon? Most of Amazon's stuff comes from China too.

Is the new president known to be this anti Chinese?

Good chance that Indonesian Chinese are behind this. If you read the article it mentioned TikTok needing to form a JV with GoTo group to gain entry into the local market. CEO of GoTo is connected with the Soeryardjaya family who are ethnic Chinese.
 

luminary

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Why Oregon has a reputation as a "white haven":
Oregon is "white" because it was founded on racist exclusionary principles by white supremacists who would terrorize and murder people of color.
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The white "founders" of Oregon were so racist they banned slavery so they wouldn't have to be around Black people. It is not a historical accident Oregon is "so white" but the result of deliberate exclusion and ethnic cleansing.


Looks like neocons aren't keen on seeing the Middle East develop their own technology ecosystems. Without the tech edge they and Israel wouldn't spy and dominate as effectively there.
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gelgoog

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Paris accused China’s President Xi Jinping of breaking a promise he had made to French President Emmanuel Macron of not imposing temporary duties during a visit to Paris last May.
“I find these measures incomprehensible. There is no justification for them,” said France’s Junior Trade Minister Sophie Primas.
FAFO. They honestly thought that China would just stand around while they put tariffs on their cars. Seriously?
Current EU leadership is pretty pathetic.

Adding some sort of luxury tax if they insist on this could be next. Guess what France and Italy export the most.

The Chinese government needs to promote its own luxury brands and stop the gravy train.
 

Serb

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Libya proves the point that trying to install democracy without civil society cohesion and education is a waste of time. It had those things under authoritarian rule but has since been destroyed and it's attempt to revitalize it under democracy has been chaotic.


Democracy has always been chaotic in 100% of countries, even Americans increasingly don't want that brain rot system anymore.

There is a legit 1/4 of the population openly calling for autocracy and this is rising.

Imagine in China if 1/4 of the population demanded that they install American-style liberal idiocracy there, haha,

It wouldn't even happen in a dream. They know that they are cooked and looking for solutions.

It is just that they, along with many elites like Musk, believe that Trump is their autocratic efficient savior and not the catalyst for a sooner collapse.

It is clear that democracy failed even in the West, it simply can't work for the long term under any circumstances, even theoretically.



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And this is just the support for Trump to do it if he loses, without any valid reason needed, whereas he could probably find a few reasons to present always as election irregularities. In reality, it is probably around 1/3 of the support for Trump's autocracy as this illustrates,


A December
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found that 36 percent of US adults did not believe Biden was legitimately elected, compared to 29 percent two years prior. And in a Pew Research poll conducted earlier this month,
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said that Trump did nothing wrong in trying to overturn the election results,
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And keep in mind that whereas democrats are a lot more passive than Trumpists, they have a certain percentage of voters probably supporting autocracy of their own rule, open or covert, either from preventing Trump takeover or because they also feel like it.


If we take it all as combined, I would probably say that close to 50% don't support the current political system anymore.


Imagine them then constantly criticizing China which has a 95%+ supported system, and propping up your system that failed and even you yourself don't want anymore.

This is like half of China wanting to adopt the Western system and we would hear no end to it from them bragging and making fun of if then.
 
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Scratch a liberal and a _____ bleeds.
According to the good fellows at the "Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation", all the Nazis annihilated by the USSR are "victims of communism".


Typical US alarmist news about China investing in Nuclear Fusion power. The horror...

Watching the video you would also assume that the US invented Tokamak technology and China "stole" it. When Tokamaks were invented by Soviet scientists.
Some of the alarmists are worried for a reason. The US is no longer its former self and can hardly accomplish anything of significance in a reasonable time frame. Below is an example.
 

_killuminati_

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German embassy in china posted a pro-israeli tweet

Many Chinese are commenting that it is not the job of the German embassy in china to promote another country

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Zionists are trying to do damage control. They know their image is shattered, so now they go everywhere with their stooges to convince everyone that the Apartheid is the victim (even on this forum). The German FM in this post got one thing absolutely correct though: "Israel's security is a fundamental interest of our country". That's correct because the formation of Israel was the final solution of the centuries old Jewish Question that plagued Europe, and it's preceding solution didn't go so well.

I feel that folks get to hung up on "forms of government" or "system of government" but the truth is that there's no best performing form of government, there's no one system that's universally valid. From what we can see, liberal democracies don't work when a country is poor, full of uneducated or undereducated people, and haven't forged enough cohesion through shared values. Trying to slap liberal democracy on these types of societies is a fool's errand. Look at Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, much of Africa, etc. Liberal democracy is a product of economic development and not a tool you use to develop. Like someone pointed out, it's a luxury many can't afford to have.

The most important thing is the quality of leadership, if the leadership is competent (prizes growth and development) and is not corrupt mixed with an authoritarian form then this enables a poor country to develop quickly. However, this form of authoritarianism won't work in a country that has developed a middle class, a highly educated population, and has created cohesion through shared values. China seems to be an exception to the rule but I would argue that while it doesn't have western style liberal democracy, it has established a unique meritocratic democracy that is focused on policy rather than politics. It seems to have wisely navigated a potential clash with its middle class by inviting it into the CPC and thus carrying them along in the decision making process. China is democratic through policy rather than politics. I think this approach should be studied in the developing world.
Maybe there are "best performing governments wrt time". I would argue, just as it was argued by a founding father of Pakistan a hundred years ago, that democracy is a mask placed on the face of a monarchy or feudal/oligarch dictatorship, especially as it developed in Europe, i.e. giving citizens access to education in mass brings them to a point of seeking freedom and equality with the dictators/monarchs/feudals (which threatens the latter); then this democracy concept is used as a facade of equality while the grips of authority remain in the hands of the ruling aristocracy. And we see this today in many forms, i.e. aristocrats are rarely prosecuted for crimes, or given petty punishments.

I don't know how Chinese system works but it appears to me that there is one single party that is concerned with developing the country instead of multiple parties concerned with development and/or competing against one another. The way I see it today in Western countries is political parties more concerned with defeating their competition instead of development. 4-5 years between elections doesn't help either because you don't wanna start projects that will bear fruit when your competitor is in power (i.e. policies are short-term; long-term planning is avoided).

Northeast - suffers from snowstorms/blizzards and frost
Midwest - suffers from tornadoes
South - suffers from hurricanes
West - suffers from earthquakes and large fires
West nowadays is suffering something even worse than earthquakes and fires: irreversible drought.

Libya proves the point that trying to install democracy without civil society cohesion and education is a waste of time. It had those things under authoritarian rule but has since been destroyed and it's attempt to revitalize it under democracy has been chaotic.
Saddam also had a highly sectarian population in stable cohesion. Now Iraq is a democracy and the sectarian violence there is the worse the world has seen in some time.

First, countries that run persistent trade surpluses—as China is currently doing—are charged interest on their earnings. This interest is transferred to countries that are running trade deficits to help them develop their infrastructure and industry. Secondly, countries that run trade imbalances past a certain magnitude are forced to revalue their currency to eliminate the trade imbalance."
If I was a "merchant banker" from that "highest IQ" race, I would ensure the countries running surpluses continue do so indefinitely so that I can continue to profit off their interest payments. In order to achieve this, I'd make sure the interest payments of surplus countries are going into my banks in the deficit countries and aren't being used to develop the latter.

I wonder if this was calculated because Republicans and other right wings, proud boys etc... do not like Jews at all. They won't like hearing him call out Jew haters because they are that. They support Israel as a nation for killing those in the Middle East who are anti-USA but they don't like Jews and their closed off societies in America. However, Trump could also realize that they hate Kamala so much that he's not going to do enough damage to sway their vote away from him just by saying that.
Might be something as simple as pandering to the powerful Jewish community. As they say in Hollywood, "if you want to win an Oscar, make a movie about the Jews or Holocaust". White supremacists may be large in numbers but they aren't very bright and lack influence in politics; Jews, on the other hand, are tiny in number but have huge influence in every sector of the country (you could call them king-makers).

But America and co weren't trying to install "democracy". They were aiming to just destroy Libya as it was a non-western aligned nation, it also wanted to create a shared currency called the "gold dinar" so that it could sell its oil without using burger bucks. The west just simply wanted it destroyed so that it could be easily exploited and ensure that the petrodollar wasn't challenged. Its the usual playbook.
The biggest threat to hit the Western world at the time of Gaddafi was his plan to unite Africa which was actually gaining traction and working. If that momentum continued uninterrupted, it would devastate European economies into the dark ages because these are built on and operate on Africa's exploitation. France, which still operates colonies in Africa, would be the biggest loser, hence their leading the charge.

Florida is doomed, the only ones enjoying living there are the gators and crocodiles because they live in water. The state already been hit by 3 hurricanes in a single year, this one looks like is going to bad and course because US allies have priority over taxpayers money, the state has invested very little on disaster infrastructure and climate change infrastructure

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I don't care how many hurricanes hit me, I will never buy a Chinese EV.
- Uncle Sam

China has rejected India's proposal of moving SCO summit out of Pakistan

As a Pakistani, I always feel china is doing more for us than we are doing for them which makes it a very one sided relationship. Hopefully this changes.
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It will never change unless the organization at the top changes. That organization is built on a British system, a colonial residue that the founding fathers abhorred yet the country refuses to concede. Imagine seeking independence from a colonial master, and then appointing colonialists as your executive officers.
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Pakistanis, in general, are duped into the false belief that the only way to progress and success is by association with the West. They are not independent thinkers; they are slaves. The top brass - politicians and generals - send their children to the West for i̶n̶d̶o̶c̶t̶r̶i̶n̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ education, where they also become hostages so their parents are forced to do the bidding of the West. Promises of fortune and foreign estates lure them in. Ever heard of that general who studied at a military college in China? Neither have I.
 

_killuminati_

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When India hosted the SCO summit last year, it did in virtual format, while it hosted the G20 lavishly. India doesn't respect the SCO, yet it wants to move the summit out of Pakistan. The SCO can do without India. India is spoiling the SCO just like it is doing with BRICS. India finds itself more in common with the G7 nations, and regards the rest as unworthy. It wants to appoint itself as the "Voice of the Global South" to the G7. The SCO and BRICS should just forget about that Supapowar and let them go play with the G-people.
It appears to me that the SCO strategy has been to sway India away from the West, because nobody wants an intractable weed in their backyard. But this strategy isn't working very well. Imagine what would happen to EU or NATO if Germany joined SCO.

The wagnerian coup that turns them from level 1 dedollarization to houthi level anti-US
The developments occurring in Africa for the past couple years, spearheaded by the US and France, are beyond fked up. Unfortunately, they do not find much media attention, even in most alt media.

The comments and quoted tweets are wild. There is a reason many call India a modern Fascist state.

#IndiaProblems
Brahmin genes!
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..because only a Brahmin can qualify for a position of Sadhu (the species that devolved backwards from human, as depicted above)

According to the good fellows at the "Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation", all the Nazis annihilated by the USSR are "victims of communism".
One day, they'll have to redact this bit too, once it becomes common knowledge that the bulldog of communism was Jewish.



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Somebody finally said it to his face and it was too much to bear
 
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