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Not to mention litigation fees, income taxes, and property tax.
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The funny thing is that this sort of monopoly money trading between oligarchs inflates the dollar while wages remain stagnant. Huge dollar numbers are now thrown around to buy garbage valued products/services. Saline bag? 100$. Tuition? 200k$. Simple ER visit? 5000$.

And how does US make it bearable for the population? By introducing exceptions. If you work for a company, you can have their insurance. If you join the military, your student debt will be reduced. Exceptions through scholarships, exceptions through company rebates, and so on. How does the company pay for said insurance? State funding and package deals.

See where I'm going with this? US has highly ironically turned itself into a Soviet like economy where many commodities are available only through special exceptions, since the price is pegged so high that you can't afford it by normal wages. You either pay an exorbitant amount, or you have a state issued ration ticket state influenced company issued insurance and pay an affordable token fee.

That's the reason nothing signficant can be manufactured in the US anymore. The buyer/seller system has been completely fucked over by huge handouts from US govt to a few price fixing oligarchs.

Reserve currency is meant in theory to mitigate this, but it doesn't work that way, because the flow of dollars out of US is bottlenecked by what foreign products Americans can buy and will never catch up with the pace the US govt is distributing bailouts, hence the progressive inflation of costs while wages remain stagnant.

For decades, American consumers mainly exported dollars to nearly only 1 country, the only 1 which could provide the advanced appliances and tech they need at prices they can afford after wage stagnation set in. China. But guess what is happening now when US government want to isolate itself from the world.
 
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I don't really follow those aznidenity or asianmasculinity subreddits that much. Mostly a waste of time. But I was reading the activity from them declined recently. The reason? It was highjacked by Indians.

Like when people think of Asians in the west they usually think of the east or sea types who look oriental. And that was generally accepted. However Indians are such goddamn clout chasers. Now asian clout is in the rise, Indians cannot help themselves but want to be part of that even though they were not present during the lowest times of COVID. So now when people talk about asian issues, they want it to be about them too. Otherwise no one woukd care. Of course it's rarely the other way round. And the mods have Indians too so you can imagine what happened.

This isn't even a company ffs. It's a subreddit for angry Asians (that probably won't make a difference) and somehow the same Indian behavior still manages to be exhibited and ruined the place.

Asian built something, it gets attention, Indians come in out of nowhere, they take over the place claiming credit, the place gets ruined. Like a damn leech.
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The Indians have been chasing clout long before the rise of Asia. In India's early years, they were chasing the clout of the Anglos. Indians called themselves the successor of the British Raj, and were supremely proud about their English education. From the 90s, to the 2010s, they claimed that their proud Anglo-derived heritage will propel them to overtake China's growth miracle. They believed that their mastery of the English tongue and IT will be their key to success. That was also when we start hearing them talk about India Superpowar 2020.

2020 came, and was the point where the rise of Asia was confirmed, led by China. But 2020 had passed India by, so they start associating themselves with the rise of Asia. They want to tell everyone that the rise of Asia is led by them, not China. And the China haters and the Anglos are only too happy to go along. Today they excitedly tell everyone that the Asian Century belongs to India, not China.

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I don't know any others who exhibit this sort of behavior. But I really do hope Chinese leadership is aware of such slimeball behavior. I used to think the eternal anglo or Jews were shameless but damn Indians Will be taking their throne very soon. At least Jews are an exclusive club and want it to remain that way but Indians are just everywhere.

So the takeaway is, if you make a deal with an Indian, use every damn control to make sure he is enforced to honor his side of the deal. And make sure if he doesn't, you have every right to make him pay heavily.
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The Chinese leadership have probably been rather naive with their understanding of the Indians back in 2020. But they have been learning their lessons. Today, they appear to still give India lots of leeway. There appears a rather calm mindset of dealing with India compared to the US and Japan. Maybe the Chinese leadership knows that India cannot be taken too seriously, and are mostly just ignoring it from an advantageous position.

One of the better ways to make a deal with the Indians is to give them a take it or leave it deal. They come and demand A-Z from you. Ignore them. They want you to commit first before they honor their side of the bargain. Ignore them. They criticize you and threaten to take their business elsewhere. Ignore them. Sooner or later, they might be forced to come crawling back to you. Only that's when a deal could be discussed, and you could preferably demand concessions. But if they start becoming petulant again, ignore them again. The Chinese government and military appears to be ignoring India right now. But some Chinese businesses like Xiaomi are only beginning to learn their lessons about India.
 
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1826011379930902726

This is slightly old news but westoids are seething hard about a statue of Indian monkey diety Hanuman being placed in Texas calling it demonic and ugly.

First thing I thought of is Wukong which Jai Hinds are trying to steal credit from claiming he Hanuman.

Now I definitely know they are not the same because if they erected a statue of Wukong, people will be like that damn that's cool!

Guess that's going to blow the minds of Jai Hinds when they are realizing China has more soft power than their democratic freedom (tm) superpower country!
 
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Now that the race for generative A.I. is on between essentially just two countries: China and U.S. there's a growing ambivalence in some U.S. elites that the rate of progress the Chinese A.I. companies ranging from established giant business entities like Tencent, Baidu, Alibaba and the many start ups in China racing to come up their own A.I. and being released to the public, for example Kling may not be such a good idea after all.

For one, the author of the article I have linked is dismayed that she couldn't create a dancing Xi Jinping but she can make a deep fake of herself and use her likeness in PORN. Her fear now is that China is going to unleash a very dangerous precedent for all the young girls out there that's going to be at the mercy of future A.I. creators. Which is why the author is wishing that Chinese entrepreneurs should have COPIED the altruistic and ethical American corporations that are withholding public release of their A.I. video like SORA from Open AI despite their qualitative, computational advantages over the Chinese counterparts, not to mention the sophistication of its A.I. videos that are made to educate the American youths on the beauty of countless genders and that the bombing of civilians as a collective punishment for angering the chosen people are well deserved and highly moral of the highest order. LOL

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"I tried some out. They wouldn’t give me any videos of Xi Jinping breakdancing, but one did make a clip from my headshot that removed my jacket and shirt when I was testing what these could potentially be used for.

While the videos were not always high quality, I was still ultimately left feeling sorry for a generation of girls and young people who are growing up with this technology so easily accessible.

The rush to offer these services to the Chinese public stands in stark contrast to firms in the United States. OpenAI teased a first look at its video-generating tool, Sora, in February, but has yet to publicly release it. Google’s Veo is only available to a handful of select creators and testers via a waitlist at the moment.

U.S. tech giants’ rare restraint in launching these tools is wise (and saves them a lot of computing resources). But it also makes it hard to judge how superior their products actually are compared to Chinese counterparts. From the curated teases we’ve seen from OpenAI and Google, they seem far more capable of creating realistic video content.

This may be in part because of their access to advanced chips and computing equipment. Training AI video models requires immense amounts of visual data and processing power. OpenAI’s published research on Sora found that the video quality “improves markedly” as computational resources for training increase.

Chinese firms should take a page from the Americans’ playbook and hold back on rushing these tools to the public. And both countries must work on guardrails to protect artificial content from wreaking real-world harms, as well as addressing where the training data is coming from, and who has the rights to use it."
 
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Yes, indeed, the U.S. is the technology leader in most areas. “High-tech exports” is misleading since that reflects China’s historic role as an ICT assembler and thus the total value of a iPhone being accrued as a “Chinese” export even if most of the value-add and productivity was done in Cupertino, CA.
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Are we living in the same world?

China now global leader in 90% of critical tech research: think tank​

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Nature Index 2024 Research Leaders: Chinese institutions dominate the top spots​

Seven out of the leading ten institutions this year are based in China, while Stanford University drops out of the top ranks for the first time.
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So it sounds like China in fact has substantially lower productivity
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Who cares? China was the driver of the world's economic growth in the past decade and will remain so in the foreseeable future.
China Is World's Biggest Economic Driver In The Past Decade, Says OECD Official
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Asia Poised to Drive Global Economic Growth, Boosted by China’s Reopening China and India together are forecast to generate about half of global growth this year ​

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Yup, Carl Zha is mostly right.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1830266210933780958

Free speech, LMAO
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829779388612624610
 
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Now that the race for generative A.I. is on between essentially just two countries: China and U.S. there's a growing ambivalence in some U.S. elites that the rate of progress the Chinese A.I. companies ranging from established giant business entities like Tencent, Baidu, Alibaba and the many start ups in China racing to come up their own A.I. and being released to the public, for example Kling may not be such a good idea after all.

For one, the author of the article I have linked is dismayed that she couldn't create a dancing Xi Jinping but she can make a deep fake of herself and use her likeness in PORN. Her fear now is that China is going to unleash a very dangerous precedent for all the young girls out there that's going to be at the mercy of future A.I. creators. Which is why the author is wishing that Chinese entrepreneurs should have COPIED the altruistic and ethical American corporations that are withholding public release of their A.I. video like SORA from Open AI despite their qualitative, computational advantages over the Chinese counterparts, not to mention the sophistication of its A.I. videos that are made to educate the American youths on the beauty of countless genders and that the bombing of civilians as a collective punishment for angering the chosen people are well deserved and highly moral of the highest order. LOL

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"I tried some out. They wouldn’t give me any videos of Xi Jinping breakdancing, but one did make a clip from my headshot that removed my jacket and shirt when I was testing what these could potentially be used for.

While the videos were not always high quality, I was still ultimately left feeling sorry for a generation of girls and young people who are growing up with this technology so easily accessible.

The rush to offer these services to the Chinese public stands in stark contrast to firms in the United States. OpenAI teased a first look at its video-generating tool, Sora, in February, but has yet to publicly release it. Google’s Veo is only available to a handful of select creators and testers via a waitlist at the moment.

U.S. tech giants’ rare restraint in launching these tools is wise (and saves them a lot of computing resources). But it also makes it hard to judge how superior their products actually are compared to Chinese counterparts. From the curated teases we’ve seen from OpenAI and Google, they seem far more capable of creating realistic video content.

This may be in part because of their access to advanced chips and computing equipment. Training AI video models requires immense amounts of visual data and processing power. OpenAI’s published research on Sora found that the video quality “improves markedly” as computational resources for training increase.

Chinese firms should take a page from the Americans’ playbook and hold back on rushing these tools to the public. And both countries must work on guardrails to protect artificial content from wreaking real-world harms, as well as addressing where the training data is coming from, and who has the rights to use it."
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Lol Americans trying to declare themselves winners when they haven't provided anything.

And who is to say the widely publicly distributed versions in China aren't superior to some hidden, only used in staged scenario, US equivalent? US can say anything, since it's only used in carefully curated promos. Even if these US platforms can equal China's ground tested technology, would it be able to match up to what Beijing keeps around itself restricted from the public? China has the largest supercomputer capacity of any country.

Boston dynamics claimed for years without delivering a product that they were superior to different Chinese robotmakers. As of today they have shown nothing that's not tech demos doing the same as what China has done, and it is Chinese robodogs that are going to the front for Russia, and soon for Ukraine too, if/when AFU finds their shell export company. Boston dynamics nowhere to be seen on the European continent even.

US not daring to show their products outside carefully curated and scripted environments makes it hard for the public to fully gauge how inferior they are to China's, until proven otherwise.

Progress waits for no one and I hope China continues to press the pedal to the metal. Good ideas will stick while bad ideas will fall into obsolence. And also the PLA to keep experimenting with the latest tech to seize all security advantages, such as autonomous unmanned swarms with AI led targeting. Furthermore China should really look into additional ways to hamper and slow down US, not just ways to grow and implement new tech at home, but also prevent the enemy from advancing.
 
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829911845966086426

"Palestinians live the best life of all middleast in Israel" ... but cannot share bus stop with Jews, cannot cross this line
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1830181302991274001

How apartheid annexation works: build walled settlement > force Arab further away from wall for "security" > extend wall into buffer zone = settlement doubled in size > repeat procedure
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829932865343410657

That expression is meme-worthy
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829887712108953779

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1830132452032954830

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829910426613923919
 
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How does the company pay for said insurance? State funding and package deals.
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Nope. ERISA health insurer plans are all funded out of corporate treasuries. There is no public sector support of employer sponsored health insurance.
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See where I'm going with this? US has highly ironically turned itself into a Soviet like economy where many commodities are available only through special exceptions, since the price is pegged so high that you can't afford it by normal wages.
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No: healthcare costs are highly concentrated in a small handful of cases, mainly due to unparalleled quality of treatment of chronic and rare diseases. Specialists and devices only available in the U.S. means you need to pay for exclusivity.
Regional universities are affordable. Which is ofc, why most people don’t pay much in tuition and don’t graduate with debt.
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You either pay an exorbitant amount, or you have a state issued ration ticket state influenced company issued insurance and pay an affordable token fee.

That's the reason nothing signficant can be manufactured in the US anymore
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The U.S. is manufacturing more now than it ever has been, albeit highly concentrated in a number of capital goods items; for example, see Applied Materials, Lam Research, and KLA with their factories in California.
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Reserve currency is meant in theory to mitigate this, but it doesn't work that way, because the flow of dollars out of US is bottlenecked by what foreign products Americans can buy and will never catch up with the pace the US govt is distributing bailouts, hence the progressive inflation of costs while wages remain stagnant.
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Real wages have gone up.
 
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