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Re: Military FAQ
i dont want to be part of the answer team, but...
type 51c x2 (one already been launced)
type 956 em x2 (one already launched)
54a x2 ( the hull for ones been laid already)
song x5
varyag x1
type 93 ssbn x1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Liberation_Army_Navy
and sinodefence.
utelore said:
i dont want to be part of the answer team, but...
type 51c x2 (one already been launced)
type 956 em x2 (one already launched)
54a x2 ( the hull for ones been laid already)
song x5
varyag x1
type 93 ssbn x1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Liberation_Army_Navy
and sinodefence.
Re: Military FAQ
Hello Gollevainen (haven't post in a while but still check in)
I was reading in rec.aviation.military that France is going to upgrade 27 Moroccan Mirage F1 for a whopping $420 million dollars and had a question or two. I've looked up Thales and found a radar that could be installed in a Mirage F1 and according to the site in other types of aircraft as well. I'll attach the link . My question is can a Mirage F1 equipped with this RC400 radar and MICA missiles do battle and maybe win against a Fulcrum 9.12? armed with AA-11s? Or can the Fulcrum because of it's better speed and turning still pick where and what point of the battle to fight? I'm not a pilot and was wondering if somebody can explain how a more advance fighter can get the edge on a older model type fighter equipped with advance missiles and radar?
My book has turn into a hobby because I can't write but still very interested in military aviation. If Ecuador were to some how pay for this upgrade like Moroccan's did for their Mirage F1s, could Ecuador's air force match up against Peru's air force? Still can't confirm anywhere if Peru's air force received working AA-12? Thanks
PS: I like the new web site and rules much better then the old site.
Hello Gollevainen (haven't post in a while but still check in)
I was reading in rec.aviation.military that France is going to upgrade 27 Moroccan Mirage F1 for a whopping $420 million dollars and had a question or two. I've looked up Thales and found a radar that could be installed in a Mirage F1 and according to the site in other types of aircraft as well. I'll attach the link . My question is can a Mirage F1 equipped with this RC400 radar and MICA missiles do battle and maybe win against a Fulcrum 9.12? armed with AA-11s? Or can the Fulcrum because of it's better speed and turning still pick where and what point of the battle to fight? I'm not a pilot and was wondering if somebody can explain how a more advance fighter can get the edge on a older model type fighter equipped with advance missiles and radar?
My book has turn into a hobby because I can't write but still very interested in military aviation. If Ecuador were to some how pay for this upgrade like Moroccan's did for their Mirage F1s, could Ecuador's air force match up against Peru's air force? Still can't confirm anywhere if Peru's air force received working AA-12? Thanks
PS: I like the new web site and rules much better then the old site.
Re: Military FAQ
well Im not expert of french fighter upgrades, but to my knowlidge, Mirage f-1 has very nible peak, compared to rafael or Mirage 2000, so if that radar could be fitted, it would mean narrower planar diameter. But if equiped whit MICA, thye would poses serious thread to any fighter in the region. And if coming close in combat whit MiG-29, I dont know? MiG is one hell of a dogfighter and expecially whit AA-11, and if flown by equally skillfull pilot, I would bet on MiG. South Africans once held a practice manouvres whit their Cheetah (improved Mirage 5) against Russian MiG-29s and Su-27. Thougth SA pilos were far better than their russian counterparts, they still had to face the superiority of Russian planes, in close range battles.
But then again, if equiped whit MICA, Mirages could use that range advantage to encounter Russian planes.
But as for your book, Sorry to hear it. As author of some sort of myself, I say: Dont give up the figth!
....wait a minute...did i just say "author myself"?.... ...eehh..öhh...hmm...okey you did't hear, see nor any other way noticed that part, right :nono: ?
well Im not expert of french fighter upgrades, but to my knowlidge, Mirage f-1 has very nible peak, compared to rafael or Mirage 2000, so if that radar could be fitted, it would mean narrower planar diameter. But if equiped whit MICA, thye would poses serious thread to any fighter in the region. And if coming close in combat whit MiG-29, I dont know? MiG is one hell of a dogfighter and expecially whit AA-11, and if flown by equally skillfull pilot, I would bet on MiG. South Africans once held a practice manouvres whit their Cheetah (improved Mirage 5) against Russian MiG-29s and Su-27. Thougth SA pilos were far better than their russian counterparts, they still had to face the superiority of Russian planes, in close range battles.
But then again, if equiped whit MICA, Mirages could use that range advantage to encounter Russian planes.
But as for your book, Sorry to hear it. As author of some sort of myself, I say: Dont give up the figth!
....wait a minute...did i just say "author myself"?....
...eehh..öhh...hmm...okey you did't hear, see nor any other way noticed that part, right :nono: ?
Re: Military FAQ
...rommel will anwser as soon as he can
...but seriosly patience please, we cannot be all places at once, you'll answer will come eventually...
...rommel will anwser as soon as he can
...but seriosly patience please, we cannot be all places at once, you'll answer will come eventually...
Re: Military FAQ
Okay, for the question with Taiwan, well, all unit of the Nanjing military region could be use to an eventual attack on Taiwan.
Those unit are the following
1st Group Army (83011 Unit), Xuzhou, Jiangsu
* 10th Armoured Division, Suzhou, Jiangsu
* 1st Amphibious Mechanised Division*, Hangzhou, Zhejiang
* 3rd Motorised Infantry Brigade, Jinhua, Jiangsu
* 9th Artillery Division
* 5th Army Aviation Group (Helicopter)
* Tactical Surface-to-Surface Missile Brigade**, Shangrao, Jiangxi
* Air Defence Brigade (SAM/AAA)
12th Group Army (83226 Unit), Xuzhou, Jiangsu
* 2nd Armoured Division, Xuzhou, Jiangsu
* 34th Motorised Infantry Brigade, Anhui
* 36th Motorised Infantry Brigade, Xinqi, Jiangsu
* 179th Motorised Brigade ('Linfen Brigade'), Nanjing, Jiangsu
* 137th Specialised Landing Brigade, Pukou
* Artillery Brigade, Xuzhou, Jiangsu
* AAA Brigade, Huaian, Jiangsu
31st Group Army (32404 Unit), Xiamen, Fujian
* Amphibious Armoured Brigade, Changtai, Fujian
* 91st Motorised Infantry Division, Zhangzhou, Fujian
* 92nd Motorised Infantry Brigade, Nanping, Fujian
* Artillery Brigade
* 13th Air Defence Brigade (SAM/AAA)***
Shanghai Garrison
* 1st Coast Defence Brigade, Shanghai (Baoshan)
* 2nd Coast Defence Brigade, Shanghai (Jinshan)
* 3rd Coast Defence Brigade, Shanghai
Units Directly Subordinated to MR
* MR Special Operations Group
* Tactical Surface-to-Surface Missile Brigade**, Shangrao, Jiangxi
* Electronic Warfare Regiment
* 31st Pontoon Bridge Regiment, Nanjing, Jiangsu
* 14th Air Defence Brigade (SAM/AAA), Anhui
* Tank Training Regiment
NOTE:* 1st Amphibious Mechanised Division is the PLA's first armoured unit designed for amphibious assault landing operations. It is mainly equipped with amphibious tanks and APCs
** Nanjing MR deploys two tactical SSM brigades equipped with DF-11 (M-11) and DF-15 (M-9) ballistic missiles. These are the PLA's only two ballistic missile units under the command of Army, not the Second Artillery Corps.
***13th Air Defence Brigade has several AAA battalions and a SAM regiment, which controls 2 HQ-7 battalions and one Tor-M1 (SA-15) battalion.
The PLAAF have 4 Fighter, 1 attack and 1 bomber division in the Nanjing Military region.
And for the PLAN: one of the primary missions for the East Sea Fleet is to support the PLA in a potential amphibious landing on Taiwan Island. As a result of the worsening situation between China mainland and Taiwan since the mid 1990s, the East Sea Fleet has been receiving the latest warships and aircraft imported from Russia, including four Kilo class diesel-electric submarines and two Sovremenny class missile destroyers. A further two Sovremenny class destroyers are currently under construction in Russia, and expected to be delivered to the East Sea fleet between 2005 and 2006. The East Sea Fleet Naval Air Force is also equipped with the Ka-28 antisubmarine warfare helicopter and latest Sukhoi Su-30MK2 two-seat, twin-engine long-range fighter-bomber equipped with supersonic anti-ship missiles.
SEA UNITS
* Destroyer flotilla X 1
* Frigate flotilla X 1
* Conventional submarine flotilla X 1
* Fast attack craft flotilla X 1
* Landing ship flotilla X 1
* Logistic support ship flotilla X 1
SHIPS
* Destroyer X 6: Nanjing (131), Hefei (132), Chongqing (133), Zunyi (134), Hangzhou (136), Fuzhou (137)
* Frigates X 21: Shaoxing (510), Nantong (511), Wuxi (512), Huaiyin (513), Zhenjiang (514), Xiamen (515), Jiujiang (516), Nanping (517), Ji'an (518), Jiangxing (521), Lianyungang (522), Putian (523), Sanming (524), Ma'anshan (525), Wenzhou (526), Ningbo (533), Jinhua (534), Anqing (539), Huainan (540), Huaibei (541), Tongling (542)
* Conventional submarine X 7: Four Kilo class (364, 365, 366, 367) and three Type 039/Song class (320, 321, 322)
NAVAL AIR FORCE
* 4th Naval Aviation Division, Luqiao (J-7B/E)
* 6th Naval Aviation Division, Dachang (JH-7, J-6,)
* Training Regiment (JJ-6, JJ-7)
* Shipborne Helicopter Group, Wuhu (Ka-27/28, Z-8, Z-9C)
* Special Mission Group, Dachang (Y-8AEW)
As you can see, some are thoses units seems to only wait for a go-code to land on a beach and it's also special that 2 ballistic missile are directly under army command and not 2nd Arty...
I know you didn't give you a pourcentage, but still, it's better than nothing I think.
and for the rest, wait a few more day... if i can find some info...
Yimmy said:
Okay, for the question with Taiwan, well, all unit of the Nanjing military region could be use to an eventual attack on Taiwan.
Those unit are the following
1st Group Army (83011 Unit), Xuzhou, Jiangsu
* 10th Armoured Division, Suzhou, Jiangsu
* 1st Amphibious Mechanised Division*, Hangzhou, Zhejiang
* 3rd Motorised Infantry Brigade, Jinhua, Jiangsu
* 9th Artillery Division
* 5th Army Aviation Group (Helicopter)
* Tactical Surface-to-Surface Missile Brigade**, Shangrao, Jiangxi
* Air Defence Brigade (SAM/AAA)
12th Group Army (83226 Unit), Xuzhou, Jiangsu
* 2nd Armoured Division, Xuzhou, Jiangsu
* 34th Motorised Infantry Brigade, Anhui
* 36th Motorised Infantry Brigade, Xinqi, Jiangsu
* 179th Motorised Brigade ('Linfen Brigade'), Nanjing, Jiangsu
* 137th Specialised Landing Brigade, Pukou
* Artillery Brigade, Xuzhou, Jiangsu
* AAA Brigade, Huaian, Jiangsu
31st Group Army (32404 Unit), Xiamen, Fujian
* Amphibious Armoured Brigade, Changtai, Fujian
* 91st Motorised Infantry Division, Zhangzhou, Fujian
* 92nd Motorised Infantry Brigade, Nanping, Fujian
* Artillery Brigade
* 13th Air Defence Brigade (SAM/AAA)***
Shanghai Garrison
* 1st Coast Defence Brigade, Shanghai (Baoshan)
* 2nd Coast Defence Brigade, Shanghai (Jinshan)
* 3rd Coast Defence Brigade, Shanghai
Units Directly Subordinated to MR
* MR Special Operations Group
* Tactical Surface-to-Surface Missile Brigade**, Shangrao, Jiangxi
* Electronic Warfare Regiment
* 31st Pontoon Bridge Regiment, Nanjing, Jiangsu
* 14th Air Defence Brigade (SAM/AAA), Anhui
* Tank Training Regiment
NOTE:* 1st Amphibious Mechanised Division is the PLA's first armoured unit designed for amphibious assault landing operations. It is mainly equipped with amphibious tanks and APCs
** Nanjing MR deploys two tactical SSM brigades equipped with DF-11 (M-11) and DF-15 (M-9) ballistic missiles. These are the PLA's only two ballistic missile units under the command of Army, not the Second Artillery Corps.
***13th Air Defence Brigade has several AAA battalions and a SAM regiment, which controls 2 HQ-7 battalions and one Tor-M1 (SA-15) battalion.
The PLAAF have 4 Fighter, 1 attack and 1 bomber division in the Nanjing Military region.
And for the PLAN: one of the primary missions for the East Sea Fleet is to support the PLA in a potential amphibious landing on Taiwan Island. As a result of the worsening situation between China mainland and Taiwan since the mid 1990s, the East Sea Fleet has been receiving the latest warships and aircraft imported from Russia, including four Kilo class diesel-electric submarines and two Sovremenny class missile destroyers. A further two Sovremenny class destroyers are currently under construction in Russia, and expected to be delivered to the East Sea fleet between 2005 and 2006. The East Sea Fleet Naval Air Force is also equipped with the Ka-28 antisubmarine warfare helicopter and latest Sukhoi Su-30MK2 two-seat, twin-engine long-range fighter-bomber equipped with supersonic anti-ship missiles.
SEA UNITS
* Destroyer flotilla X 1
* Frigate flotilla X 1
* Conventional submarine flotilla X 1
* Fast attack craft flotilla X 1
* Landing ship flotilla X 1
* Logistic support ship flotilla X 1
SHIPS
* Destroyer X 6: Nanjing (131), Hefei (132), Chongqing (133), Zunyi (134), Hangzhou (136), Fuzhou (137)
* Frigates X 21: Shaoxing (510), Nantong (511), Wuxi (512), Huaiyin (513), Zhenjiang (514), Xiamen (515), Jiujiang (516), Nanping (517), Ji'an (518), Jiangxing (521), Lianyungang (522), Putian (523), Sanming (524), Ma'anshan (525), Wenzhou (526), Ningbo (533), Jinhua (534), Anqing (539), Huainan (540), Huaibei (541), Tongling (542)
* Conventional submarine X 7: Four Kilo class (364, 365, 366, 367) and three Type 039/Song class (320, 321, 322)
NAVAL AIR FORCE
* 4th Naval Aviation Division, Luqiao (J-7B/E)
* 6th Naval Aviation Division, Dachang (JH-7, J-6,)
* Training Regiment (JJ-6, JJ-7)
* Shipborne Helicopter Group, Wuhu (Ka-27/28, Z-8, Z-9C)
* Special Mission Group, Dachang (Y-8AEW)
As you can see, some are thoses units seems to only wait for a go-code to land on a beach and it's also special that 2 ballistic missile are directly under army command and not 2nd Arty...
I know you didn't give you a pourcentage, but still, it's better than nothing I think.
and for the rest, wait a few more day... if i can find some info...
chinawhite
Banned Idiot
Re: Military FAQ
Most of the questions can be answer by a few links.
Anyone want to compose a links page?
here are the few i have
Contains order of battle, unit numbers names and general information about chinese military equiment. propabilty the most user friendly site i have been on
This site is full of experts. its mostly a forum but has artiles to read.
Lots of pictures psoted. Lots of flame wars. Lots of links
updated everyday with avation news.
Kidda like a indian version of sinodefence. but is a lot more into the indian defence motto. full of crazis
Good site from israeli weapons
This is my favourite site. Contains a little(or a lot) of everything
A all round site about the worlds militaries. undated rarely
This was once the best site but has fallen ito dis-repair. still has good information
Crazy site. lots of information psted but mostly speculation
Good site at times but total Flame war at others. The moderators are the ones mostly flaming the threads:rofl:
This had a chinese section that was ok. Good basic information
This has some jokes on it but has some members which are in the know
There are more but thats all of them from the top of my head.
people add more later on
Regards,
chinawhite
Most of the questions can be answer by a few links.
Anyone want to compose a links page?
here are the few i have
Contains order of battle, unit numbers names and general information about chinese military equiment. propabilty the most user friendly site i have been on
This site is full of experts. its mostly a forum but has artiles to read.
Lots of pictures psoted. Lots of flame wars. Lots of links
updated everyday with avation news.
Kidda like a indian version of sinodefence. but is a lot more into the indian defence motto. full of crazis
Good site from israeli weapons
This is my favourite site. Contains a little(or a lot) of everything
A all round site about the worlds militaries. undated rarely
This was once the best site but has fallen ito dis-repair. still has good information
Crazy site. lots of information psted but mostly speculation
Good site at times but total Flame war at others. The moderators are the ones mostly flaming the threads:rofl:
This had a chinese section that was ok. Good basic information
This has some jokes on it but has some members which are in the know
There are more but thats all of them from the top of my head.
people add more later on
Regards,
chinawhite
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