Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is Missing

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balance

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I am glad to see countries working together to recover the bodies and the wreck. So far, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, australian, South Korea, USA, New Zealand, France and UK have participated.

I read somewhere that China is willing to help. Any explanation why they haven't done so?
JSDF have dispatched Takanami and Onami to enter Indonesia and will arrive there today (in the evening).
I would expect China would do the same, but I wonder what is going on.
It's a new superpower and people have high expectation.
 
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delft

Brigadier
t2contra said:
Years ago, well before 9/11, when I played with my Microsoft Flight Simulator, trying to make an airliner climb at a steep angle makes you realise how lame it could be. I had to fly nose down first, not necessarily at a sharp angle, to gain speed and then nose up sharply. Even then, the gain in altitude was not much before it lost momentum. Normally, a passenger plane gains altitude at a more gentle angle and at least at cruising speed, which is near to max.
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This suggests that the aircraft was caught by a very strong updraft. I remember reading about Vickers Viscount over the Eastern US in the '50's that was caught by downdraft so strong that its wings failed downwards. We need to avoid such weather. Remember a recent incident over Japan when nearly a dozen people were injured, one seriously, when an aircraft was hit by remouse.
 
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delft

Brigadier
Air Force Brat said:
Yes, the hopeful liberals on the BHO team and in Europe, wishing to not offend the Putin and get him all cranky, Hollande off visiting the Putin and trying to get him to "go home", and leave the poor Ukrainians to fall on their own??? So that I Hollande, can deliver your pretty little French Boats??? please go home, please!:p

The truth is still Russian BUK, prolly Russian crew "helping the Roosian" Rebels, taking the Crimea, got a little trigger happy??? and scratch one innocent airliner and crew, just tell the truth, brother delft, you're to old to be drinkin that liberal kool aid, and yes we are all way off topic, so lets just let this latest tragedy play out and agree that it was "weather related"?:(:(
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When Western leaders are offending Putin by instituting sanctions why would they hesitate to publish damaging evidence wrt the destruction of MH17 if they had any.
 
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Dolcevita

Major
delft said:
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When Western leaders are offending Putin by instituting sanctions why would they hesitate to publish damaging evidence wrt the destruction of MH17 if they had any.
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Western leaders stated since day one that they have solid proof the Pro-russian rebels shot down MH17, much like the American leaders have proof the North Korea is behind Sony Studio hacking and Iraq having WMD, yet they are all nothing more than innuendo. Guess who is consuming and getting drunk with Kool-aid.
 
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Equation

Equation

Lieutenant General
delft said:
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When Western leaders are offending Putin by instituting sanctions why would they hesitate to publish damaging evidence wrt the destruction of MH17 if they had any.
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Dolcevita said:
Western leaders stated since day one that they have solid proof the Pro-russian rebels shot down MH370, much like the American leaders have proof the North Korea is behind Sony Studio hacking and Iraq having WMD, yet they are all nothing more than innuendo. Guess who is consuming and drunk with Kool-aid.
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Lets just keep the subject of MH17 (ongoing investigation) off topic on this thread please gentlemen. Thank you.
 
Air Force Brat

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
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Equation said:
Lets just keep the subject of MH17 (ongoing investigation) off topic on this thread please gentlemen. Thank you.
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Yes sir, and given my good mood, I'm gonna go back and edit out my little "snotter" response to that poor old cranky guy,,, sorry master delft, I'm old, but I'm only cranky on Monday, LOL!
 
Air Force Brat

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
t2contra said:
Years ago, well before 9/11, when I played with my Microsoft Flight Simulator, trying to make an airliner climb at a steep angle makes you realise how lame it could be. I had to fly nose down first, not necessarily at a sharp angle, to gain speed and then nose up sharply. Even then, the gain in altitude was not much before it lost momentum. Normally, a passenger plane gains altitude at a more gentle angle and at least at cruising speed, which is near to max.
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Well to just dip my feet in the water, I departed Midway in Chicago climbed to slightly above twenty thousand ft, accelerated in a slight dive to 400 knots indicated airspeed, (Boeing 737-800) pitched to the vertical and climbed at an estimated 20,000 fpm,,,, pulled through into a loop topping out at 30,000 ft, over the top at 75 knots indicated, and down the back side and pulled out at around 20,000. An airliner is quite capable of some amazing performance numbers, the 737 will loop and roll very nicely?
 
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no_name

Colonel
t2contra said:
Years ago, well before 9/11, when I played with my Microsoft Flight Simulator, trying to make an airliner climb at a steep angle makes you realise how lame it could be. I had to fly nose down first, not necessarily at a sharp angle, to gain speed and then nose up sharply. Even then, the gain in altitude was not much before it lost momentum. Normally, a passenger plane gains altitude at a more gentle angle and at least at cruising speed, which is near to max.
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I almost managed to land that cessna on the aircraft carrier, almost. A couple of times it was really close :D
 
broadsword

broadsword

Brigadier
Brat,

Just a speculate a little, do you suspect a structural failure since the pilot was a former fighter pilot and the Airbus has the condition for violent maneuvers?
 
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