asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing
I reckon the plane is somewhere in Central Asia like Kazakstan or something
I reckon the plane is somewhere in Central Asia like Kazakstan or something
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is Missing
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broadsword
Brigadier
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing
I think Kazakhstan would beyond the range of MH370. It is an additional 914 nautical miles further away from Kuala Lumpur than Beijing and it had already made a turn to the Indian Ocean.
I think Kazakhstan would beyond the range of MH370. It is an additional 914 nautical miles further away from Kuala Lumpur than Beijing and it had already made a turn to the Indian Ocean.
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing
the pilot could have requested reserve fuel without officials knowing if it was an inside job
By the way, china should ditch their expensive j20 j31 stealth programs. Why need to spend billions to develop aircrafts
that can avoid radar detection, all is needed is to get a normal plane and switch all the electrics off and apparently even with all the sophisticated radar And satellites, no one can possibly find you! After almost a week!
the pilot could have requested reserve fuel without officials knowing if it was an inside job
By the way, china should ditch their expensive j20 j31 stealth programs. Why need to spend billions to develop aircrafts
that can avoid radar detection, all is needed is to get a normal plane and switch all the electrics off and apparently even with all the sophisticated radar And satellites, no one can possibly find you! After almost a week!
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing
I'm seeing on the news that the search area has expanded into Central Asia and Indonesia. That really says they absolutely know nothing even this engine pinging thing seems unreliable. Does that mean the ships sent into the Indian Ocean searched the area already? That's pretty quick.
I'm seeing on the news that the search area has expanded into Central Asia and Indonesia. That really says they absolutely know nothing even this engine pinging thing seems unreliable. Does that mean the ships sent into the Indian Ocean searched the area already? That's pretty quick.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing
A little outside the box, but has anyone checked cargo? Was someone carrying something unusually valuable on board? This scenario would require that the pilots could manually shut off the oxygen supply to passenger masks and also to be able to manually decompress the plane, but the second part is not essential.
Let's say some billionaire bought a big old bag of diamonds and was either carrying them in person or had a trusted aid carry it on the flight and someone knew about it, then this might have been a robbery.
After the robbers took control of the plane, the steep climb was to get the plane high enough that the pressure difference gets so high and beyond what the plane was designed for that either a breach occurs, decompressing the main passenger compartment and killing everyone outside the cockpit, or the pressure difference allows the hijackers to fool the safety systems into lowering main cabin air pressure enough to incapacitate or kill the passengers and crew.
Once the rest of the crew and passengers are incapacitated or killed, the hijackers followed navigation way points to get to their intended destination and parachuted out of the plane, either over land, or if they have military grade training and skills, over water to an awaiting boat.
The plane would then continue on the last course that was set and potentially fly on for hours before crashing thousands of miles away deep in the Indian Ocean, and no one would ever know anything valuable was taken.
Same thing could have happened if there was either a scientist or government agent onboard the flight carrying highly sensitive information, but if that information was the target of the robbery, its a far more sinister tale as that would mean a national government was likely behind the hijacking and murder or over 200 people in order to get that information.
A little outside the box, but has anyone checked cargo? Was someone carrying something unusually valuable on board? This scenario would require that the pilots could manually shut off the oxygen supply to passenger masks and also to be able to manually decompress the plane, but the second part is not essential.
Let's say some billionaire bought a big old bag of diamonds and was either carrying them in person or had a trusted aid carry it on the flight and someone knew about it, then this might have been a robbery.
After the robbers took control of the plane, the steep climb was to get the plane high enough that the pressure difference gets so high and beyond what the plane was designed for that either a breach occurs, decompressing the main passenger compartment and killing everyone outside the cockpit, or the pressure difference allows the hijackers to fool the safety systems into lowering main cabin air pressure enough to incapacitate or kill the passengers and crew.
Once the rest of the crew and passengers are incapacitated or killed, the hijackers followed navigation way points to get to their intended destination and parachuted out of the plane, either over land, or if they have military grade training and skills, over water to an awaiting boat.
The plane would then continue on the last course that was set and potentially fly on for hours before crashing thousands of miles away deep in the Indian Ocean, and no one would ever know anything valuable was taken.
Same thing could have happened if there was either a scientist or government agent onboard the flight carrying highly sensitive information, but if that information was the target of the robbery, its a far more sinister tale as that would mean a national government was likely behind the hijacking and murder or over 200 people in order to get that information.
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing
I still think that most of you guys are being extraordinarily generous towards the Malay authorities over this matter and giving them a trust for today's version of events, that the contradictions, evasions and omissions of the last week just do not afford them.
Assuming that we are now hearing a true account, the immediate question to the Malay's, is why did you track this aircraft off course and without transponders for over an hour across your airspace, without dispatching fighters to investigate and notify the region of an emergency?
Like Wolfie I suspect State level involvement in this business and have done so since day one, given the wholly incredible story being sold. Today's revelations do nothing to dispel that feeling.
I still think that most of you guys are being extraordinarily generous towards the Malay authorities over this matter and giving them a trust for today's version of events, that the contradictions, evasions and omissions of the last week just do not afford them.
Assuming that we are now hearing a true account, the immediate question to the Malay's, is why did you track this aircraft off course and without transponders for over an hour across your airspace, without dispatching fighters to investigate and notify the region of an emergency?
Like Wolfie I suspect State level involvement in this business and have done so since day one, given the wholly incredible story being sold. Today's revelations do nothing to dispel that feeling.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing
What I've been seeing on TV is only someone with intimate knowledge of the plane's systems could only do what they say happened to mask the flight. The most simplest explanation is one of the pilots was crazed and suicidal and he knew what to do and flew the aircraft somewhere where no one can find it easily and crash it.
What I've been seeing on TV is only someone with intimate knowledge of the plane's systems could only do what they say happened to mask the flight. The most simplest explanation is one of the pilots was crazed and suicidal and he knew what to do and flew the aircraft somewhere where no one can find it easily and crash it.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing
The fact is it only takes one country lying to create all this confusion. People also have to remember that the area and flight path goes by a lot of disputed territory by all countries in the region. All it takes is someone with an itchy trigger finger. Look at how the South Korean military fired upon a passenger jetliner on a normal approach into Seoul thinking it was a North Korean intrusion.
The fact is it only takes one country lying to create all this confusion. People also have to remember that the area and flight path goes by a lot of disputed territory by all countries in the region. All it takes is someone with an itchy trigger finger. Look at how the South Korean military fired upon a passenger jetliner on a normal approach into Seoul thinking it was a North Korean intrusion.
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing
From the BBC web site:
P.S. Perhaps I'm wrong. Does the Southern corridor go much further South?
From the BBC web site:
From this I point to
I do not think all of the countries on the Northern would neglect to intercept an anonymous plane. Besides I suppose the US are still flying AWACS aircraft from Manas. So I think it took the Southern route and ended up near Diego Garcia. Still I do not see the US hijacking the aircraft and hoping no-one on the island will ever speak about that plane landing there.
P.S. Perhaps I'm wrong. Does the Southern corridor go much further South?
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Quickie
Colonel
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing
The US shouldn't be less forthcoming with any information, just so the rest of the 14 countries know where to concentrate their Search & Rescue efforts. If there's a reason why the U.S. is moving to other areas, the rest of the countries should know about it.
I would also question: why the delay of 6 or 7 days in the release of information about the satellite transmissions?
The US shouldn't be less forthcoming with any information, just so the rest of the 14 countries know where to concentrate their Search & Rescue efforts. If there's a reason why the U.S. is moving to other areas, the rest of the countries should know about it.
I would also question: why the delay of 6 or 7 days in the release of information about the satellite transmissions?