If I write my initials on your house, does it make it mine? That spot is clearly on the Indian side of the lac. Unless Google is biased.Why would a territory inside india's LAC has 'China' written on it??
Also why do you keep posting western news article that are written by indians? This is not at the slightest even close to what is considered to be an 'anti-india' source.View attachment 69600
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You can claim that pp14 is a contested LAC or whatever, but June 15 clash should really tell you which one is the victor in controlling it. The term 'always' is also ridiculous as if we don't have satellite photos on pp14 (and ONLY pp14, China doesn't contest galwan mouth, get this right into your thick indian skull) before and after the clash on how you blockade yourself out of pp14 after the clash with the wall 
Keep dreaming about how china is losing since it can't go further into the galwan mouth, it's just your fantasy narrative since China has never claim that area and never try to go into it either. Satellite photos and the chinese embassy' statement also collaborate how it's indians who tried to make its move first into the pp14, and how china makes the distinction between 'crossing the estuary' that happened in early April and 'crosing the LAC' that happened in May and June, which completely goes against your 'china is attempting to change the LAC until galwan mouth' lie.
Keep dreaming about how china is losing since it can't go further into the galwan mouth, it's just your fantasy narrative since China has never claim that area and never try to go into it either. Satellite photos and the chinese embassy' statement also collaborate how it's indians who tried to make its move first into the pp14, and how china makes the distinction between 'crossing the estuary' that happened in early April and 'crosing the LAC' that happened in May and June, which completely goes against your 'china is attempting to change the LAC until galwan mouth' lie.
Which is why it's called contested LAC? Are you pretending that this doesn't exist? Is this also not the case in the northern side of the lake?
What matters is who won the battle, aka the June 15 clash. If your side 'always' control pp14 then why do you blockade yourself out of pp14 and allows China to construct fortification on it right after the clash??
This is just pathetic attempt from your side to throw whatever you can given the window of opportunity until something sticks. Reread again the embassy' statement about what happened in the pp14. You're the one who made the first move, ALL satellite photos also confirmed it. How does that make sense if it's China who wanted to change the LAC if it's actually you who started making trouble going as far back as April???
And when your attempt of controlling pp14 failed, you just pathetically went back, blockade yourself with the wall, and then starting to claim victory by making up stuffs about how china is the one who started it all and how china wants to go into the galwan mouth?? LMAO
And when your attempt of controlling pp14 failed, you just pathetically went back, blockade yourself with the wall, and then starting to claim victory by making up stuffs about how china is the one who started it all and how china wants to go into the galwan mouth?? LMAO
Until last year, there was no dispute in Galwan, unlike in Pangong. And even if India did set up the first camps there(which is unlikely) that is still within the lac which up until that point, China recognized. And if India made the first move, why did China dam the river and set up camps near the lac, forcing India to do a mirror deployment? Obviously, China dismantled those camps, restoring status quo ante, but I still have yet to see an answer as to shy China changed the river flow if India was the agressor.Which is why it's called contested LAC? Are you pretending that this doesn't exist? Is this also not the case in the northern side of the lake?
What matters is who won the battle, aka the June 15 clash. If your side 'always' control pp14 then why do you blockade yourself out of pp14 and allows China to construct fortification on it right after the clash??
And where are those camps now? We are not talking about one battle here, even though you keep tying to change the topic. We are talking about the standoff as a wholeYou can claim that pp14 is a contested LAC or whatever, but June 15 clash should really tell you which one is the victor in controlling it. The term 'always' is also ridiculous as if we don't have satellite photos on pp14 (and ONLY pp14, China doesn't contest galwan mouth, get this right into your thick indian skull) before and after the clash on how you blockade yourself out of pp14 after the clash with the wall
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Keep dreaming about how china is losing since it can't go further into the galwan mouth, it's just your fantasy narrative since China has never claim that area and never try to go into it either. Satellite photos and the chinese embassy' statement also collaborate how it's indians who tried to make its move first into the pp14, and how china makes the distinction between 'crossing the estuary' that happened in early April and 'crosing the LAC' that happened in May and June, which completely goes against your 'china is attempting to change the LAC until galwan mouth' lie.
There is no dispute because you don't try to cross into the LAC, nor doing the buildup in the estuary? Like hello you somehow forget all these images?
Following your logic, are you gonna claim that China lose against india in 1962 since we also withdraw ourselves back??
No, there's no debate about that.
Well simple, because you do make the first move since April? Like did you not even read the sentences from your own??? Don't want river to be changed, don't try to enter the estuary, simple as that.
We withdraw, same thing that happened in 1962 to you, same thing that happened in china-vietnam war, same thing that happened northern side of the lake, same thing that happened here. After teaching the enemy a lesson, the PLA always withdraw. How hard is it to understand?
Following your logic, are you gonna claim that China lose against india in 1962 since we also withdraw ourselves back??
Bold 1 : The original LAC is 1km from Y junction, where there is a sharp turn.
You distort again. Is it out of ignorance? Realistically, it's out of malice.
Bold 2: Yes he did. You read the article linked. He draws the original LAC exactly where Shukla drew it.
- 5 km patrols into Galwan Valley (from the confluence point).
- 1 km from the Bend (Y junction)
Bold 3: Or he could be right. I see you squirm. Nice.
Bold 4: Siachen is Dangerous. Why go there? Shoddy excuse.
Bold 5: Read the article.
Indian media claims India lost territory. (which it did).
Last decade India lost territory. India also lost patrol rights.
Care to refute? Nah. You distort and beat around the bush to refute.
Bold 1 :
Your proclivity for foreigner worship is pretty evident. You are discrediting retired veterans (that too someone who commanded patrols) in favor of some American think tank shill who haven't set in foot on the place.
Bold 2:
Ajai Shukla has been vindicated by the support lend by the veteran who lead. Unless you can show another veteran (of patrols to the point), denying it, the reality is that Ajai Shukla's claims can be believed.
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