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lgnxz

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twineedle said:
Hilarious how the same people accusing me of using outdated satellite imagery are responding by posting even more outdated imagery lol
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See, told ya this guy is really shameless. Please reread this part and understand the meaning of the sentence that I've written
lgnxz said:
So please, don't equate this to the 'withdrawal' the chinese made in the finger area, a voluntary move that resulted in a buffer zone that's more beneficial to china as you agreed with how indians are more often to cross the contested LAC, to action done by us in the galwan clash that is actually successful to prevent the unprovoked intrusion by your side.
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And then there's is this.
twineedle said:
Yes, China captured pp14... by retreating over a km from the site. Meanwhile, India immediately resumed patrols after disengagement was complete.
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China captured pp14, period. The disengagement later on is a voluntary move that has nothing to do with your action. There is no proof either that india has resumed patrols to pp14, so stop lying. Especially if you take a close look on those later photos that you linked, you can see that on the patch of land on the indian side across the river, the road access made to facilitate the tractor and troops mobilization is completely destroyed and even worse, some of the area is submerged by the river flow lmao..

Again, this happened because india is trying to intrude to pp14 in the first place, you get that, right? It's your side that has been trying to change the status quo, so when status quo is restored in pp14, why are you getting jumpy and happy, even try to insinuate that china has lost during the skirmish here?? You have a severe cognitive dissonance, better seek help soon.
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What non- Indian media is saying
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That are written by indian authors. Like why do you even bother trying to insinuate that this article is somehow unbiased? Try to invent fake names like peter navarro did with his ron varra or something :p, invent white-sounding pseudonyms like your kind usually do on the internet to pretend that a lot of non-indians are supporting india, make it less obvious that this is just a bunch of indians like you trying to copepost on a western news site lol.
 
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These are the facts as of now:

China retreated over 60 km in Pangong and destroyed all infrastructure it built. India remained at it s permanent post in Dhan Singh Thapa.

China pulled back its forward and rear deployments in Galwan, restoring status quo ante. Meanwhile India has several posts in the valley including a forward encampment indicative of normal patrolling ops.

China failed to secure any of its claim lines and instead had to pull back from the de facto lac as of 1993.

India constructed all infrastructure in the galwan that China objected to, and secured the Galwan heights

DBSDO is secure.

And China failed to cross the lac and secure its claims even in gogra, hot springs, and Depsang.



Now some members are coping by echoing claims ironically posted by dubious Indian media sources. Guess it has gone from 1000 to 1400, lol, despite no evidence showing that.

BTW, this should be helpful to some members here

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This is what capturing looks like

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1281829922168659969


And good that some people finally noticed the water level That is the reason why the bend is only a patrolling point, becasue for a godd chunk of the year it is submerged. The only reason the water was low enough for the skirmish to happen is because the level was artificially altered, and only the side from which the river flows could do that.
 
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Slightly off topic but how bad is this and how is it getting so highly rated?


Jeez. This is some next level self delusion. The worst North Korean propaganda and propaganda believers could not sink this low lol.

IAF getting outmatched with failure to shoot down a single PAF asset, losing their own helicopter to friendly fire, getting comms and radars jammed by PAF, and PAF successfully delivering payloads intentionally right next to their intended targets (Pakistan released the ordinance being guided by pilots to look at targets and then steered away intentionally). Somehow that is still PAF failure and India win.

I mean this right here is the level of delusion. But with respect to LAC, twineedle could be right about Depsang. We'll need to wait until more official disclosure and updates come out. Indian MoD said they will provide updates two weeks ago but it could just be a matter of both sides still talking about position of build up and artillery behind their respective sides of the LAC.
 
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twineedle said:
These are the facts as of now:

China retreated over 60 km in Pangong and destroyed all infrastructure it built. India remained at it s permanent post in Dhan Singh Thapa.

China pulled back its forward and rear deployments in Galwan, restoring status quo ante. Meanwhile India has several posts in the valley including a forward encampment indicative of normal patrolling ops.

China failed to secure any of its claim lines and instead had to pull back from the de facto lac as of 1993.

India constructed all infrastructure in the galwan that China objected to, and secured the Galwan heights

DBSDO is secure.

And China failed to cross the lac and secure its claims even in gogra, hot springs, and Depsang.



Now some members are coping by echoing claims ironically posted by dubious Indian media sources. Guess it has gone from 1000 to 1400, lol, despite no evidence showing that.

BTW, this should be helpful to some members here

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

This is what capturing looks like

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1281829922168659969


And good that some people finally noticed the water level That is the reason why the bend is only a patrolling point, becasue for a godd chunk of the year it is submerged. The only reason the water was low enough for the skirmish to happen is because the level was artificially altered, and only the side from which the river flows could do that.
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Bold 1 : Distortion of truths and use of certain words to paint a "India win" picture.

Bold 2 : Factually wrong.

Bold 3: Outdated and Goes against Disengagement narrative.

Bold 4: No de facto LAC exists. (you've changed your narrative begrudgingly, I suppose)

Bold 5: Factually wrong.

Bold 6: DBDSO secure is upto interpretation. Having armoured divisions and posts 20 km away without a mirror deployment to counter and overwhelm isn't "securing".

Bold 7: China can't stop Indian patrols without crossing LAC of India.

Bold 8: Some of the largest media houses are termed dubious because it goes against a certain narrative.

Bold 9: No one has claimed that. Did they lose more?

Bold 10 : Dated. Doesn't agree with the Disengagement terms laid down. If at all true, can only be termed as part of pull back.


Refer previous posts.
 
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twineedle said:
These are the facts as of now:

China retreated over 60 km in Pangong and destroyed all infrastructure it built. India remained at it s permanent post in Dhan Singh Thapa.

China pulled back its forward and rear deployments in Galwan, restoring status quo ante. Meanwhile India has several posts in the valley including a forward encampment indicative of normal patrolling ops.

China failed to secure any of its claim lines and instead had to pull back from the de facto lac as of 1993.

India constructed all infrastructure in the galwan that China objected to, and secured the Galwan heights

DBSDO is secure.

And China failed to cross the lac and secure its claims even in gogra, hot springs, and Depsang.



Now some members are coping by echoing claims ironically posted by dubious Indian media sources. Guess it has gone from 1000 to 1400, lol, despite no evidence showing that.

BTW, this should be helpful to some members here

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

This is what capturing looks like

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1281829922168659969


And good that some people finally noticed the water level That is the reason why the bend is only a patrolling point, becasue for a godd chunk of the year it is submerged. The only reason the water was low enough for the skirmish to happen is because the level was artificially altered, and only the side from which the river flows could do that.
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When facts are just too hard on Indians:
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lgnxz

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twineedle said:
China retreated over 60 km in Pangong and destroyed all infrastructure it built. India remained at it s permanent post in Dhan Singh Thapa.
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But, given your acceptance of how indians are more often to transgress in the fingers area, the NEW status with the establishment of the buffer zones, it clearly benefits china.
twineedle said:
China pulled back its forward and rear deployments in Galwan, restoring status quo ante. Meanwhile India has several posts in the valley including a forward encampment indicative of normal patrolling ops.
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Better phrasing would how the indians are getting kicked out of pp14 by china, thus restoring the status quo. You have no counter argument about how india STARTED the incident in the first place by intruding into pp14, thus this phrasing is more accurate to paint the reality of what happened on the ground.

You lost in trying to change the status quo, while china never wanted any change in the first place. This is very clear especially with the pp14 matter but other areas are the same, period.

Also notice his attempt at twisting words here, the satellite images clearly show how indians patch of land are submerged, yet he keeps mentioning the ability of india 'patrolling' or even 'securing' the points, even to pp14. Hahaha, this kind of cognitive dissonance is often noticed happening from the indians how has lost his argument and unwilling to admit their errors. ;)
twineedle said:
China failed to secure any of its claim lines and instead had to pull back from the de facto lac as of 1993.

India constructed all infrastructure in the galwan that China objected to, and secured the Galwan heights

DBSDO is secure.

And China failed to cross the lac and secure its claims even in gogra, hot springs, and Depsang.
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These are basically word salads, and trying to put words/narratives that have never been mentioned/used by the chinese side. First line of sentence you can just refer to my argument about the buffer zones. Second one is just straight up lie and contradiction, since you cannot construct let alone 'secure' areas that you yourself admit to be routinely submerged lol.

You basically reverse the role of china and india in your mind, contrary to the facts on the ground. India is the one who tries to intrude and attempting to change the status quo in the first place, while china is busy in the east and south china sea against taiwan/US and the epidemic. There's no intention from China to change the status quo, and status quo won't change either IF only the indian just doesn't stir up trouble from the beginning. This very start of the conflict is basically just omitted from the story within your deluded mind, and when you got pushed back, beaten up, getting captured both in territory and personnel (no contradiction with your definition of capture either, since China does capture them before withdraw itself voluntarily), your presence is nonexistent in this forum. Finally, when china withdraws itself AFTER preventing your side from invading into our LAC, establish a new buffer zones setup that's more beneficial for china right now, you crawl out of the cave and started with this false claim about how indians somehow 'won' the battle lmao.
 
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