I think I have already clarified I do not think Balakot was an Indian military win
Ladakh Flash Point
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Pretty good image released just a few hours ago.
This connects India's new roads in Galwan with existing road networks along the Shyok, including DSDBO. Goes against the narrative that China controls Galwan Valley, especially since China's reason for moving into pp14 was opposition to this bridgework.
In addition, India does regularly patrol the heights overlooking the valley and the nearby Shyok, securing DBO in the area.
As for Depsang, india has conducted a mirror deployment including tanks and artillery securing depsang. China does have an advantage in tactical ops(patrolling) around the y-junction due to favorable topography and better infrastructure..
This connects India's new roads in Galwan with existing road networks along the Shyok, including DSDBO. Goes against the narrative that China controls Galwan Valley, especially since China's reason for moving into pp14 was opposition to this bridgework.
In addition, India does regularly patrol the heights overlooking the valley and the nearby Shyok, securing DBO in the area.
As for Depsang, india has conducted a mirror deployment including tanks and artillery securing depsang. China does have an advantage in tactical ops(patrolling) around the y-junction due to favorable topography and better infrastructure..
What did I tell you about not putting words into someone else's mouth, @twineedle ?
You still haven't debunked the clear evidence of who's intruding into pp14 FIRST and cause the trouble, isn't this more of a reason for china to contested the area rather than some bridge kilometers away from the LAC?
Why do you now need to invent something else unrelated to the claim, yet again, that india 'won' against china, by putting this burden of an unrealistic goal on China that somehow china 'fails' on, instead of the actual contest that China successfully done, aka the clash on pp14?
Bold 1 : India can build whatever it wants in the regions it has traditionally controlled. 4.8 km is not 3 km.
Bold 2 : This is not shyok river valley. But Galwan river valley.
Bold 3 : WRONG Bridge. The bridge that you are highlighting and the bridge that sparked the confrontation at Galwan are different ones. Maybe the desperation made you trip?
Bold 4 : Not the heights of Galwan. Your finessing skills are nice but not good enough.
The rest of the satellite images by Nathan Ruser and Detresfa whatever are dated and before July.
You use them to create a narrative of Indian victory. But this victory was crafted in One of those Bollywood movie studios few distance away from Galwan flash point and in traditionally Indian controlled region.
Edit : Refer previous posts. (it's a mandatory phrase these days).
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Target practice?
There's been a big push back on Indian twitter. Lots of ex IA criticising Modi and pointing out that it was a Chinese victory. e.g.
People like twineedle would probably get arrested for saying things like that.
People like twineedle would probably get arrested for saying things like that.
I'm with twineedle on the topic of Depsang. It's too unlikely and pointless for PLA to occupy any further than the already settled borderline between Depsang and Aksai Chin. India already lost Aksai Chin and while it claims all of Aksai Chin still as part of its claims in Ladakh, which include the Pangong dispute towards the south eastern side, there is simply no reason for PLA to intrude further into what both recognises as India. It is therefore very perplexing why so many Indian figures and political groups are still making the claim that China controls some important aspects of Depsang. I doubt there is any significant PLA intrusion into Depsang but perhaps there is a lot of force build up in Aksai Chin and PLARF or artillery units threatening strategic points of Depsang.
As India left Reqin in late 2020 and has now withdrawn from LAC on Kailash ranges, there is no purpose for PLA to push for negotiation power whether it is Depsang or any other section. India and China both reached agreements on the main dispute - Pangong, even if there were intrusions by both sides at other points, they would have disengaged by now. The only indication there may still be more drama is the Indian MoD statement that mentioned problems and the fact that some Indian figures and media are claiming these "problems" are in fact significant land concessions Modi has apparently given China. These things remain iffy since China is quiet on it. But they would be if they are gaining something even if it really isn't as significant as huge swathes of land as RG and others are claiming. Maybe it's just more forward posts and bigger build up closer to LAC on that northern side where India was not allowed to perform mirror build ups etc.
As India left Reqin in late 2020 and has now withdrawn from LAC on Kailash ranges, there is no purpose for PLA to push for negotiation power whether it is Depsang or any other section. India and China both reached agreements on the main dispute - Pangong, even if there were intrusions by both sides at other points, they would have disengaged by now. The only indication there may still be more drama is the Indian MoD statement that mentioned problems and the fact that some Indian figures and media are claiming these "problems" are in fact significant land concessions Modi has apparently given China. These things remain iffy since China is quiet on it. But they would be if they are gaining something even if it really isn't as significant as huge swathes of land as RG and others are claiming. Maybe it's just more forward posts and bigger build up closer to LAC on that northern side where India was not allowed to perform mirror build ups etc.
"This person is against the Indian Modi party. He is one of those unreliable soldiers (retired mostly). Don't believe him. There are other twitter defence analysts (who's personal details we may not know much) we trust." - some members.
"This image was supplied by Chinese troops. So that means China manages to patrol North Pangong Tso. The disengagement at North Pangong Tso is a lie and was a hogwash so that China may continue with their superior standing." - me.
(ofcourse, I'm not sure about all this. I'm just reaching using the same logic certain members here use. It works both ways.)
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