manqiangrexue
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Would the epic fail be a slight confusion on the date or would the epic fail be that a soldier, in a team of 200 that ambushed 5 unarmed negotiators and still ended up defeated/captured, was awarded a medal of gallantry?
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video only shows Chinese officer's skull wide open by Indian soldiers.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
You mean the unarmed commander in the negotiation squad that was ambushed whose head was bleeding, rushed back into combat, and is recovered by now? Even if his skull was opened, which it wasn't, what would you brag about? Video shows massive number of Indians in armor and melee weapons engage 5 unarmed Chinese negotiators with their arms open. We know that this ends with those Indians defeated, scattered and captured. What else do you need from the video? This is how Indians claim success. Gave someone a scrape on the elbow in a fight and after waking up in the hospital, claim you took his arm off LOL
Would your Indian sources like to post the 20 corpses (along with the 7 charred from the helicopter) for us to see? You might actually see some skulls opened and much worse.
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We can argue all day and that doesn’t change the ground reality. What has happened has happened. You winning the media war on Twitter, Wikipedia, or even this forum does not change that. One side has provided photographic and video evidence and the other hasn’t. It is like when Pakistan has shot down a MIG, they provided numerous photos of the wreckage from different angles and parades the pilot through a village. India claimed to have shot down a F-16 but provided no such evidence.
PiSigma
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You must be watching a different video than the rest of us. I only see Indians get their ass whooped. A couple of unarmed negotiators are putting up a bigger fight than 200 armed Indian mob, not surprising I guess.
Only regret is the PLA didn't treat the other guys as the savage barbarians that they are, for those don't follow Geneva convention, there is no need to capture them and follow Geneva convention.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Technically the Geneva convention only kicks in when war is formally declared. Otherwise you can classify them as ‘enemy combatants’ and do all sorts of inhuman and degrading things to them as exemplified by the paragons of virtue the US of A, who can do no wrong according to the Jai Hinds, so they must approve!
What's interesting to me is that you can distinctly see Indian INSAS rifle being carried by member of the melee formation.
The Chinese side probably has guys armed with Type95G as well.
Yet, despite all the brutality and deaths, nobody decided to do a mag dump. WoW. I can understand a disciplined East Asian army not going hot based on ROE and or orders, what kept the Indians from going live?
Were the mags and rifles kept separately? You can distinctly see guys wearing their ammo rigs, which does not look fully loaded (at least it doesn't look like there were 2 mags in those pouches, since a full pouch would look "squared off"). Why wear an mag rig when all you all you got is a stick?
Was the intention of engaging at dusk used as a measure to dissuade the use of firearms? Since none of the Indian or PRC guys looks like they were wearing NODs, and melee engagement almost guarantee you get blue-on-blue with iron sights.
Had I been there, I would've lock and loaded my PMAG when I saw those dude come at me with sticks.
the guy who is in the front is Air chief who took a sortie before retirement.
PiSigma
"the engineer"
Indians think they got the free win when facing off against 5 guys with 200, so don't need the guns. It's not that they are disciplined, don't deserve that kind of praise.
Yea, but what about when they get getting beat?
Just curious how that went down.
What is the escalation chain and what is the ROE?
Certainly when the Indians started swing at COL's skulls, were they not in any way worried it might get answered by 5.8mm?
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