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tresriogrande

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tch1972 said:
Chinese leadership don't understand Indian but People in Singapore and Malaysia knows the Indian too well having live and work together for the past 100 years

I would think it unwise for China to let India get away so easily after what they done. Yes China play the strategic game but from a tactical point of view, the Indian will come back once they perceive weakness in opponents.

And yes, i understand China is eager to court India and work together but it a wishful thinking on China's part for the past few decades . Indian think of geopolitics as a zero sum game and can never think of working forward to a win-win outcome. That their paranoid nature and mentality and it not China's job to educate the Indian.

Hence i say forget it. Forcus your attention on Pakistan and SL instead

As for now disengagement may bring short term peace to the border but i am pretty sure the indian will be back again. India needs more than another 62 thrashing. China needs to ensure india get 2 bullets on their heads the next time. (see the link below)

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China didn't get to where she is by being stupid. My take is that disengagement area is left as kill zone. Let's wait and see what happens next time indians show up there.
 
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Agreed. The Chinese government can learn about Indian culture anytime, it is widely available knowledge. Unfortunately to learn about the Indian mind, its a whole different matter. There no classes or books for that. All that knowledge to understand the Indian mind by the Chinese communities in Singapore and Malaysia comes from experience, not courses. The governments and institutions in Singapore and Malaysia cannot officially teach China on how to truly understand the Indian mind, because that would be seen as undermining their own racial harmony. So the Chinese government would have to learn this covertly, on the street level.

That being said, the ethnic Indian communities in Malaysia and Singapore, no matter how negative some of their traits, they could never match the Indians. We cannot equate the overseas Indian communities with actual Indians. Because they have learnt to live as a minority community for generations. And they have access to much better education than the average Indians in India. Take Kishore Mabubani for example, he is nothing like the Indians we typically laugh at. This is a model statesman, who was able to serve as the President of the UN Security Council in 2001-2002. He considers himself Singaporean, not Indian. There are practically no Jai Hinds or Bhakts in Malaysia and Singapore. Their kind are too alien to thrive in those societies. Finding them in these countries would be the same as trying to find FLG communities there.

Therefore, learning about the Indian mind in Malaysian and Singapore can only get us to around level 5 at most. It would give a good foundation. But Indians are actually beyond level 10. So, if the Chinese government is looking for a crash-course. I would think that the best consultants would have to come from South Asia. Learning from Pakistan would be a good start. Pakistan had much experience being on the receiving end of Indian violence and propaganda.
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China should consult with Pakistan on future India matters.

Indian consultants rip you off with non answers lol
 
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According Chinese media, there's a bounty on the head of his Asian looking Indian soldier who was the first lunged at Chinese commander.with a knife. Turns out this guy is 24 yrs old and from Manipur, who betrayed his home land as he was captive in the hands of indian. He was a local communist liberation army guerilla fighter of resistance movement against India. Now he serving for India.

PLA will target him if they ever see him again.
 

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According Chinese media, there's a bounty on the head of his Asian looking Indian soldier who was the first lunged at Chinese commander.with a knife. Turns out this guy is 24 yrs old and from Manipur, who betrayed his home land as he was captive in the hands of indian. He was a local communist liberation army guerilla fighter of resistance movement against India. Now he serving for India.

PLA will target him if they ever see him again.
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No worse than this traitor that yelled in Mandarian to "dont shoot, Im a Chinese person"

No worse a traitor than one that betray his own DNA

 
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twineedle said:
Say what you want to make yourself feel better. The facts say otherwise.
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This line about feeling better again cus you have nothing else to say? OK, I guess I'll respond the same as last time too.

Ladakh Flash Point

Are you denying you retreated ? Then again, denial of reality is a favorite pastime around here. You know, English skills were the greatest gift that the British left you and seeing your insanely poor reading comprehension just shows that Indians are terrible at literally everything...
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"Say what you want to make yourself feel better. Your misfit apes attacked unarmed negotiators betraying every modern convention, then ended up losing 20 people when our fighters showed up. Your forces scattered to their own deaths. Following this, all the deaths were Indian and self-inflicted. You have nothing to stop a Chinese advance. At Doklam, you ran away the instant Chinese heavy artillery showed up. Against Pakistan, you lost a fighter jet, got your pilot captured, and then shot down your own chopper killing 7 without inflicting a single casualty on your enemy. Then you called your bloody pilot disposable and in a tin can. Your government is enveloped in protests/riots and turmoil and it is during a time of COVID, a disease you have no hope of controlling. Economically, you are meager and in decline while China's towers over you like a colossus and is the only major economy to grow this last year. Technologically, you have made no progress to speak of while China rattles and panics the whole Western world on a daily basis."
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India's strategic goals were simple:
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Nobody who initiates conflict like the Indian ambush is trying to preserve the status quo, and even if they retrospectively drop their standards there, they still lie to meet it. It's par for Indian style.
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Keep Chinese patrols past the Johnson line(finger 8)
Prevent China from millitarizing/occupying the buffer zone/disputed area
Prevent China from violating the de facto lac of 1993(finger 4, Galwan river bend, etc.)
Secure its infrastructure projects, which China objected to(DSDBO, Galwan/Shyok bridges, etc.)

All were met.
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As I said, "If India suffered military humiliation losing soldiers in a cowardly ambush and an unverified amount of land, then the strategic goal was to obfuscate the land lost and say you kept the status quo."

China let you off the hook for now. Violate your promises and get another beating. Then you'll have to fancy some other way to say your objectives were met again LOL
 
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