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Sardaukar20

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Thank you General VK Singh for your clarification that India has accepted China's 1959 line. You were always the unwitting fool who have been very helpful to China. And thanks to Ajai Shukla and Pravin Sawhney for confirming that India had sweetened the deal by giving up the Kailash Range. The Bhakts and Jai Hinds are celebrating this as 'victory'. So everyone is happy then!
 

jfy1155

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"Analysts say that there is an expectation in India that full normalisation of ties after full disengagement can follow, if China addresses four Indian key concerns.

First, moving beyond Confidence Building Measures, Beijing must demonstrate a commitment to resolve the boundary issue once for all through a sincere two-way political dialogue.

Second, China must not impede India’s rise as a great power. Beijing can demonstrate a change in strategic thinking by dropping objections to New Delhi’s full membership to the UN Security Council (UNSC). Among the five-permanent member of the UNSC, China remains the only country, which is blocking a consensus on India’s permanent membership to the world’s most powerful body.

Simultaneously, China should not stand in the way to India’s entry in the other global organisations such the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG).

Third, China must stop hyphenating its ties with India and Pakistan, and work with the two countries on separate tracks which are independent of each other.

Fourth, China needs to respect India’s geo-cultural space in South Asia, Southeast Asia, parts of Central and West Asia. While the imprint of the Confucian civilization is perceptible in East Asia, India’s civilizational influence is also overwhelming in the ASEAN, South Asia and key island territories in the Indian Ocean. The need to respect cultural multipolarity is a must if ties between the two rising global powers are to prosper.

Fifth, China needs to give up its Middle Kingdom mentality of assuming that is positioned as the centre of the universe surrounded by tributary states, implying the stamping an inferior status to other countries and great civilizations."

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"Analysts say that there is an expectation in India that full normalisation of ties after full disengagement can follow, if China addresses four Indian key concerns.

First, moving beyond Confidence Building Measures, Beijing must demonstrate a commitment to resolve the boundary issue once for all through a sincere two-way political dialogue.

Second, China must not impede India’s rise as a great power. Beijing can demonstrate a change in strategic thinking by dropping objections to New Delhi’s full membership to the UN Security Council (UNSC). Among the five-permanent member of the UNSC, China remains the only country, which is blocking a consensus on India’s permanent membership to the world’s most powerful body.

Simultaneously, China should not stand in the way to India’s entry in the other global organisations such the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG).

Third, China must stop hyphenating its ties with India and Pakistan, and work with the two countries on separate tracks which are independent of each other.

Fourth, China needs to respect India’s geo-cultural space in South Asia, Southeast Asia, parts of Central and West Asia. While the imprint of the Confucian civilization is perceptible in East Asia, India’s civilizational influence is also overwhelming in the ASEAN, South Asia and key island territories in the Indian Ocean. The need to respect cultural multipolarity is a must if ties between the two rising global powers are to prosper.

Fifth, China needs to give up its Middle Kingdom mentality of assuming that is positioned as the centre of the universe surrounded by tributary states, implying the stamping an inferior status to other countries and great civilizations."

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Who the hell do they think they are?
 

ansy1968

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"Analysts say that there is an expectation in India that full normalisation of ties after full disengagement can follow, if China addresses four Indian key concerns.

First, moving beyond Confidence Building Measures, Beijing must demonstrate a commitment to resolve the boundary issue once for all through a sincere two-way political dialogue.

Second, China must not impede India’s rise as a great power. Beijing can demonstrate a change in strategic thinking by dropping objections to New Delhi’s full membership to the UN Security Council (UNSC). Among the five-permanent member of the UNSC, China remains the only country, which is blocking a consensus on India’s permanent membership to the world’s most powerful body.

Simultaneously, China should not stand in the way to India’s entry in the other global organisations such the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG).

Third, China must stop hyphenating its ties with India and Pakistan, and work with the two countries on separate tracks which are independent of each other.

Fourth, China needs to respect India’s geo-cultural space in South Asia, Southeast Asia, parts of Central and West Asia. While the imprint of the Confucian civilization is perceptible in East Asia, India’s civilizational influence is also overwhelming in the ASEAN, South Asia and key island territories in the Indian Ocean. The need to respect cultural multipolarity is a must if ties between the two rising global powers are to prosper.

Fifth, China needs to give up its Middle Kingdom mentality of assuming that is positioned as the centre of the universe surrounded by tributary states, implying the stamping an inferior status to other countries and great civilizations."

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@jfy1155 No disrespect intended but are you sure? India is the one who wanted to normalize the situation not China, cause They know they can't compete in all aspect. And the proposals is like an Indian wet dreams, I'm from ASEAN and there is no Indian culture here aside from money lending (we call them as Bumbay).
 

Mt1701d

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"Analysts say that there is an expectation in India that full normalisation of ties after full disengagement can follow, if China addresses four Indian key concerns.

First, moving beyond Confidence Building Measures, Beijing must demonstrate a commitment to resolve the boundary issue once for all through a sincere two-way political dialogue.

Second, China must not impede India’s rise as a great power. Beijing can demonstrate a change in strategic thinking by dropping objections to New Delhi’s full membership to the UN Security Council (UNSC). Among the five-permanent member of the UNSC, China remains the only country, which is blocking a consensus on India’s permanent membership to the world’s most powerful body.

Simultaneously, China should not stand in the way to India’s entry in the other global organisations such the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG).

Third, China must stop hyphenating its ties with India and Pakistan, and work with the two countries on separate tracks which are independent of each other.

Fourth, China needs to respect India’s geo-cultural space in South Asia, Southeast Asia, parts of Central and West Asia. While the imprint of the Confucian civilization is perceptible in East Asia, India’s civilizational influence is also overwhelming in the ASEAN, South Asia and key island territories in the Indian Ocean. The need to respect cultural multipolarity is a must if ties between the two rising global powers are to prosper.

Fifth, China needs to give up its Middle Kingdom mentality of assuming that is positioned as the centre of the universe surrounded by tributary states, implying the stamping an inferior status to other countries and great civilizations."

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The first would be easy India give up its claim and resolved

The second... no... China has veto power and will use it as it likes, even if it’s only to troll India... it still has every right to... also how about solving internal problems first...

The third China will work with whoever... you want more out of the relationship then be sincere in your dealing duh... there are no free lunches

The fourth again it’s not really up to China... if the other countries don’t want you give your culture the time of day surely it’s India’s own deficiency... what... India wants help propagating it’s geo-culture or something? Are they that incompetent... no need to answer that it was rhetorical

The fifth... err... if other states feels they want/need to be tributaries then it’s up to them to make the decisions... it’s not like India wants something else, they want those tributaries to be give them sh*t instead...
 

Kaeshmiri

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Laughable demands and shows how deluded Indians are.

"Analysts say that there is an expectation in India that full normalisation of ties after full disengagement can follow, if China addresses four Indian key concerns.

First, moving beyond Confidence Building Measures, Beijing must demonstrate a commitment to resolve the boundary issue once for all through a sincere two-way political dialogue.
Its India that refuses to settle the boundary dispute, politically its impossible for any Govt in India to cede territory legally and hence the problem is from the Indian side.
Second, China must not impede India’s rise as a great power. Beijing can demonstrate a change in strategic thinking by dropping objections to New Delhi’s full membership to the UN Security Council (UNSC). Among the five-permanent member of the UNSC, China remains the only country, which is blocking a consensus on India’s permanent membership to the world’s most powerful body.
To be a UNSC member India needs to behave responsibly, you cant violate UN resolutions (Kashmir) , fund terrorism in Pakistan, commit gross HR violations in Kashmir (reject multiple UN reports highlighting that) and then demand UNSC membership. It doesn't work that way.
Simultaneously, China should not stand in the way to India’s entry in the other global organisations such the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG).
India should join NPT, you don't get special treatment. Join NPT first and then enter NSG just like every other country did. Stop moaning.
Third, China must stop hyphenating its ties with India and Pakistan, and work with the two countries on separate tracks which are independent of each other.
Doesn't work that way, India as we speak is sabotaging CPEC in Pakistan. Damaging Chinese interests in the region. China will "dehyphenate" the day India behaves like a responsible country.
Fourth, China needs to respect India’s geo-cultural space in South Asia, Southeast Asia, parts of Central and West Asia. While the imprint of the Confucian civilization is perceptible in East Asia, India’s civilizational influence is also overwhelming in the ASEAN, South Asia and key island territories in the Indian Ocean. The need to respect cultural multipolarity is a must if ties between the two rising global powers are to prosper.
Indias civilizational influence is Yoga and Casteism lets not go deep into that. Also, China never disrespected indian culture so im not sure what he's talking about. Infact Yoga is a booming business in mainland China. Indians are making a lot of money doing this.
Fifth, China needs to give up its Middle Kingdom mentality of assuming that is positioned as the centre of the universe surrounded by tributary states, implying the stamping an inferior status to other countries and great civilizations."
India is economically, socially , militarily inferior to china by every objective standards . They should focus on improving their status rather than dragging others down.
 

Nobonita Barua

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To be a UNSC member India needs to behave responsibly
If you ask me, i don't think any of those "aryan" countries want these orange apes in UNSC. What you see "supporting india in UNSC" is nothing but game of chess. You have already seen japanese reservation regarding admitting india into another bandwagon.

US "supports" India knowing China will block it, so it doesn't change much on the ground, but helps US to achieve it's political objectives.
 

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Commander Qi holding up a skull model with shows the extent of damage he sustained.

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