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Xizor

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Why China didn't take western Depsang plain from India after 1962?
Probably the same reason as to why China didn't hold South Tibet.

While Depsang Plains would be in China's claim, it has chose not to physically control it as it could be a hard to defend area. China can be seen taking the nearest defendable position.
If you ask me, i don't think any of those "aryan" countries want these orange apes in UNSC. What you see "supporting india in UNSC" is nothing but game of chess. You have already seen japanese reservation regarding admitting india into another bandwagon.

US "supports" India knowing China will block it, so it doesn't change much on the ground, but helps US to achieve it's political objectives.
Indeed. India believes that China is the only obstacle but is it truly the only one? What about France and UK? Any change in the current arrangement will only pave way for further changes and countries like UK and France can lose their Veto power.

Same is the case with Japan showing reservations about allowing India into G-7. And I thought Indians considered Japanese to be their best buddies.
 

Oldschool

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"Analysts say that there is an expectation in India that full normalisation of ties after full disengagement can follow, if China addresses four Indian key concerns.
Hell no. That's why I favor maintaining stalemate at the border so continue to make India bleed internally.

There will eventually a payback for India for initiating the border conflict. Maybe 10 years from now.
 

siegecrossbow

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Probably the same reason as to why China didn't hold South Tibet.

While Depsang Plains would be in China's claim, it has chose not to physically control it as it could be a hard to defend area. China can be seen taking the nearest defendable position.

Indeed. India believes that China is the only obstacle but is it truly the only one? What about France and UK? Any change in the current arrangement will only pave way for further changes and countries like UK and France can lose their Veto power.

Same is the case with Japan showing reservations about allowing India into G-7. And I thought Indians considered Japanese to be their best buddies.

It is common knowledge that the major powers take turn cock blocking India’s proposal. When the cake is only so big, no one is interested in cutting a new piece.
 

Sardaukar20

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"Analysts say that there is an expectation in India that full normalisation of ties after full disengagement can follow, if China addresses four Indian key concerns.

First, moving beyond Confidence Building Measures, Beijing must demonstrate a commitment to resolve the boundary issue once for all through a sincere two-way political dialogue.
China is already doing that. Its India who is the insincere party. Pretending to be negotiating with China in front. While blabbering lies to smear China from behind.

Second, China must not impede India’s rise as a great power. Beijing can demonstrate a change in strategic thinking by dropping objections to New Delhi’s full membership to the UN Security Council (UNSC). Among the five-permanent member of the UNSC, China remains the only country, which is blocking a consensus on India’s permanent membership to the world’s most powerful body.

Simultaneously, China should not stand in the way to India’s entry in the other global organisations such the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG).
India is the one trying to impede China's rise. The Covid-19 backstab, BRI sabotage, RCEP snub, screwing China at the SCO, joining the QUAD, economic boycotts, lobbying international companies to transfer production from China to India, bad mouthing China 24/7 in the media, trying to force Russia to choose India instead of China, Indian troll army, etc. China has the Veto power. Why should China help India gain a Veto power after all that?

So, NO! F*ck India! Stay down there, as a second-rate power!

Fourth, China needs to respect India’s geo-cultural space in South Asia, Southeast Asia, parts of Central and West Asia. While the imprint of the Confucian civilization is perceptible in East Asia, India’s civilizational influence is also overwhelming in the ASEAN, South Asia and key island territories in the Indian Ocean. The need to respect cultural multipolarity is a must if ties between the two rising global powers are to prosper.
China had never intentionally disrespected Indian culture. Indian culture like Buddhism, Yoga and cuisine is not banned or defamed in China. China never came to any third countries and insulted the Indian cultures there. But India? It is imposing restrictions on the Confucian Institutes in India. India is trying to coerce third countries to choose India over China. There was no Indian cultural suppression carried out by China. Nada. The opposite is actually true. So, f*ck those Indian analysts!

Fifth, China needs to give up its Middle Kingdom mentality of assuming that is positioned as the centre of the universe surrounded by tributary states, implying the stamping an inferior status to other countries and great civilizations."
Why should China give up the Middle Kingdom mentality? China is the largest, most powerful country in East Asia. Its cultural impact in East Asia built the foundations of the other East Asian countries. But what did China do with this 'Middle Kingdom' power? China asks for mutual respect and win-win relations. There was no colonialism or Monroe doctrine crap imposed over its smaller neighbours.

What then about about India's 'Akhand Bharat' and 'British Raj' mentality? India wants to replace the British Raj as the new colonial power in Asia. Why should this be allowed? No! Asia deserves better!

Best for China to keep India at arms length as long as India continues this zero-sum mentality. Just stop wasting time dealing with an hostile nation, hellbent on seeing China go down for it to rise. It'll save China diplomatic energy and doing South Asia and ASEAN a great favour. God forbid if India rises to have half the wealth and military might of China. India will surely attempt to go on a crusade to bend its smaller Asian neighbours to its will.
 

sukhoi_30MKI

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You do realize that Nobo isn’t Chinese, right? Or do you assume that everyone here who is no fan of India must be Chinese?

I see, he is not chinese ... no flags in profiles .... my bad.

I thought he is chinese and pointing fingers at India .... he is from a country famous for lungis and zero achievements, some confused guys try to fight Indians from the region. ;)
 

gullible

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wondering why china withdrew from areas of pre-disengagement?
wouldnt china hold the advantage on to it?
there is a Chinese saying "letting the tiger off to hill invites incessant troubles"
 

Nobonita Barua

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So, NO! F*ck India! Stay down there, as a second-rate power!
Power? Lol. North Korea is second rate power. India is a colony that got its territory on a begging bowl, since then their activities include only doing yoga eating dungs. Its world famous for getting on knees at first chance. They are second rate rats , not "power". They can't still confused who gave them their name. Was it Dutch? Mughals? Portuguese ? Or Britons?
Hopefully they will find the answer soon using their 4th head & 3rd eye .
 

lp1g

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I see, he is not chinese ... no flags in profiles .... my bad.

I thought he is chinese and pointing fingers at India .... he is from a country famous for lungis and zero achievements, some confused guys try to fight Indians from the region. ;)
If he act like Chinese and speak like Chinese then he is Chinese.
 

sukhoi_30MKI

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If he act like Chinese and speak like Chinese then he is Chinese.

Cool :cool:

But There is a proverb in china which says "don't trust a foreigner who speaks Chinese".

I guess most of the Bangla accounts who speak against India here are from Razakars who were left in Bangladesh after 1971 war. They are supporters of Pakistan in Bangladesh.
 
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