How could the Indian Army simultaneously patrol several kilometers within actual Chinese territory but not able to patrol Finger 8, which is within disputed territory? My head hurts.
Now I am beginning to understand why the disengagement talks took 9 whole rounds with many more to go. It is like arguing with a rock.
When did anyone but you claim that releasing factual information puts CCP in danger?Oh, so you do control the narrative at home. Then why the claim that releasing factual information would put CCP rule in danger, and full scale war become inevitable? Mental gymnastics?
Now I have some newly hatched members debating with me, while smarter, established ones have "disengaged".
The notion that India would thank you for delaying the release of information is ludicrous. Just like China expected the world to thank you for killing tens of millions of your own babies. It's insane in a modern world, it's an insult to your own identify and existence. Why don't you just kill youself? At least Indians are proud enough not to do that. You have been crawling for too long and don't even realize it.
People like Hu Xijin are doing great harm to your country, he needs to be fired.
You are not going to win this debate.
No, they have the mindset of success; you have the mindset of complaining. You keep it to yourself.Let me just add this.
PLA, or the whole people of China, need to change mindset.
Oh ok, I didn't know what that meant until you wrote it twice, once in capital letters. Idiot.Repeat after me, CHANGE MINDSET.
China is powerful indeed and still threading softly, because it is still growing immensely. Any conflicts that may arise now, would serve China if they arose in the future instead. China currently has a system that works, as it develops in every sector to be a world leader. Perhaps some changes can make this even faster, but perhaps those changes can stop this pattern. Given that, the correct risk assessment is to continue on the same course if you can because that leads to victory. The desperate will do anything for change because they hope change can reverse their doomed fortunes. That's not China; China wants continuation because its future is bright and successful as it is. If it gambles, it risks losing all only for a chance to win a little earlier. That's not worth it.You really need to get out of the mentality of two-centrary humiliation, the mentality of victimhood. You are recognized by all but a few, a full-fledged superpower, and that includes, developed European countries. You can stand a full scale trade war against America, victorious. If you can't take care of yourself and defend your interests, nobody can.
You need to defend your honor. because there are countries across this world look up to you, expect you to stand up to the bully.
You need to ditch the loser mentality wherever your interests are in. You need to have the mindset of the "stronger". Han dynasty and Tang dynasty had this mindset. Song just doesn't. Ming, yes in the first half.
Mao restored this mindset with Korean War. Deng significantly weakened it with his economic "reform", where everything is counted by the money. To this day, you are still felling into this trap and couldn't get out of it, thus not able to think properly. Your body has grown into an adult, but your mind and behavior is still teenager.
There is a benefit of claiming "developing" status, but that benefit is deminishing quickly. I expect that to change soon.
So, stop burying inside great firewall and middle kingdom, thinking everything is gonna be ok.
You claim soft power doesn't exist and China's image doesn't matter. Yet at the same time you fight for the perception of win or lose. This doesn't make any sense.
You are a full fledged economic and military superpower, but your soft power are soringly lagging behind. And you tell me you don't care?
Take a look at the status of overseas Chinese. Social-econimocally, they are doing relatively well. But politically, they are at the bottom of the ladder, where every other race can take advantage of. Even politicians of your own race don't fight for you. Because they, just as you, have same loser, weaker mentality. I got to ask, is everything just about money?
Now, 5 eyes are pushing the Xinjiang narrative. And what your government has been doing? They behave like "this is none of your business". You have to do better than that.
As a superpower, you need to have the capability to control the narrative . And you are not even trying.
A duly elected government can be toppled by just a narrative. That's soft power. That's how mighty soviet union fell. They lost the narrative.
I think there were at least several times where it was explained to you why the information was delayed. You're just making up crap now because you still want to argue a dead point ignoring what was already said.Oh, so you do control the narrative at home. Then why the claim that releasing factual information would put CCP rule in danger, and full scale war become inevitable? Mental gymnastics?
Now I have some newly hatched members debating with me, while smarter, established ones have "disengaged".
The notion that India would thank you for delaying the release of information is ludicrous. Just like China expected the world to thank you for killing tens of millions of your own babies. It's insane in a modern world, it's an insult to your own identify and existence. Why don't you just kill youself? At least Indians are proud enough not to do that. You have been crawling for too long and don't even realize it.
Mind the business of your own country. Who is hired and who is fired in China is for China to decide. You need to disinvest yourself if you are not Chinese. Minding another country's internal affairs is like telling other people how to raise their very successful kids.People like Hu Xijin are doing great harm to your country, he needs to be fired.
Already have as most people see here.You are not going to win this debate.
A whole lot of "Buh saar vee vunt tuuuuuu pleese let us pley ahrund finger 8" and a whole lot of head bobbing and hand spinning.
Too cowardly to fight an equal numbered force and too cowardly to pick up their injured. They probably didn't even pay for PLA delivering their jawans. That would have taken many trucks worth of trips.
So far the bill India is some Pakistani teabags and diesel fuel for China.
Google maps changes with the country. Nice try.Are you denying that the 1992 lac agreement runs through finger 4, as clearly demarcated by google maps? Are you even aware India and China signed an agreement in 1992? Then again, you sure are good at denying, considering you are denying the fact that China retreated 60km and dismantled all of its infrastructure,and instead are pushing debunked claims of India losing territory that it had never even controlled. Guess it's hard to accept the fact that India acheived status quo ante at almost all standoff points, which was exactly what it wanted.
How could the Indian Army simultaneously patrol several kilometers within actual Chinese territory but not able to patrol Finger 8, which is within disputed territory? My head hurts.
I don’t think the PLA delivered them. Most of the soldiers they just sort of “let go”. Rumor has it that two of the deaths were from the soldiers getting lost in the valley.
Maybe we were too hard on PLA soldiers getting lost. Anything can happen in these God forsake lands.
Look up what you buddy Hu Xinjin said, and the speeches of your family planning officials at international meetings. It's disgusting.When did anyone but you claim that releasing factual information puts CCP in danger?
I have always said that withholding casualties numbers is to avoid escalating the conflict. Strategically, India is not worthy to be China’s focus right now. I have never said that a war with India would put China or CCP in danger, that’s your Indian mindset interpreting it as such. In reality, it’s simply a waste of resources and time for China that can be spent elsewhere, that’s all.
And I never said that India should thank China for withholding its casualties informations, where did that come from???
You must really be embarassed and confused right now. How about you breath slowly, take a deep breath and come back with a clearer mind. Because it’s either you putting words in my mouth or you are demented, and I don’t think you are that old yet.
China also never expected the world to thank China for birth control policies, WTF did this come from? Either you have such a twisted view of reality or you are trolling.That’s a new low for you. China controlled its population for its own economic development, not for foreigners to thank China.
You really have the Indian inferiority mindset, drooling everyday about foreign recognition. Sorry, but China doesn’t change its core policies or strategies around foreign opinions, never have.
Of course I’m not going to win this debate. After all, you are a spiritual Indian who can always “win” in its own mind, no matter the reality. How the hell is anyone going to beat that? You are invincible! You can be beaten to a pulp but in your fantasy mind it would still be “winning”, is that the “winner” mindset that you try to teach us about? Lmao.