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twineedle

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Nope, on the contrary YOU withdrew from pp14 after your attempted incursion, as shown with the 22 May satellite photos. Later supposed incursion by china is after you lost the clash on 15 June.

Yup, which further proofs how irresponsible india is as an instigator. You and kakyan has been working hard agreeing with the chinese narrative here, did modi teach you how to do that?
If that's the case, why did China withdraw nearly 1 km from pp 14 in July?
 

Xizor

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Now I think I know what VK Singh meant
Similar intrusions courtesy of PLA happen all the time in Arunachal as per India. Don't play ignorance at that.
Those regions (thickly forested, reserve areas) can't be monitored or patrolled properly by either side. Anywhere between 2 to 60 km are roughly demarcated giving ample space for "intrusive" patrols. Getting a wee bit desperate here eh?
 

twineedle

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Yup, which further proofs how irresponsible india is as an instigator. You and kakyan has been working hard agreeing with the chinese narrative here, did modi teach you how to do that?
By now you should know both sides make temporary transgressions quite often. That is what PLA soldiers do at depsang, even though their camps are well behind the lac. That's part of the nature of having an undefined border.
 

twineedle

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Similar intrusions courtesy of PLA happen all the time in Arunachal as per India. Don't play ignorance at that.
Those regions (thickly forested, reserve areas) can't be monitored or patrolled properly by either side. Anywhere between 2 to 60 km are roughly demarcated giving ample space for "intrusive" patrols. Getting a wee bit desperate here eh?
I do know that. I just wasn't aware VK Singh was talking about Arunachal Pradesh.
 

lgnxz

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If that's the case, why did China withdraw nearly 1 km from pp 14 in July?
Because there's no further clashes, because PLA is the more responsible side in this clash as shown by you kakyan and VK singh, because you have been beaten to a pulp in a pathetic 5:1 fatalities despite being the aggressor, and because as shown in the 15 June satellite photo from your own side that you have built yourself a wall in your own side of river since you're afraid of further retaliation from us, and many more.

Also, I take that you not being able to refute the evidence that you're the one who intrude first as shown in the 22 May photo, the bridge picture, and the new video is a form of admission that indeed india is the instigator here?
 

Xizor

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By now you should know both sides make temporary transgressions quite often. That is what PLA soldiers do at depsang, even though their camps are well behind the lac. That's part of the nature of having an undefined border.
Way to go twisting everything to concoct a better palatable narrative regarding Depsang. Depsang is one of those regions where the press hasn't been kind to India.

No. You can't claim Depsang is a case of "normal intrusions" as it is actively being blocked by PLA from Indian patrols which tried to go past Y junc.

You receive consolation prize for the effort.
 

longmarch

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Everybody has to do better. It's an endless demand. There is no perfect; you don't know what happened behind the scenes and you don't know if your solution is better. These people have way more information than you do when they made their decisions. Sacrificing unity for the hope of your personal definition of better is called lack of discipline and it serves no one's interest other than your enemies. If you want better, then unity is better.

I think that was previously explained. They did not release the numbers to prevent the Indians from being embarrassed and feeling like they must escalate to save face. You don't know if that worked or if it didn't. No reason to criticize it.

Now they can release it because the situation is cooled off and an agreement has been signed for de-escalation.
肉食者鄙,it was far from ideal and I'm entitled to criticize.
 

lgnxz

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By now you should know both sides make temporary transgressions quite often.
Uhh no. The chinese side has been consistent since the beginning that all of these happened because you, indians, are the instigator who tries to take advantage of china during its pandemic control. I chuckle a bit after kakyan and finally you somehow 'boast' about the transgression that you did in the border area. Modi really lead by example, he taught his people how to agree with our narrative. Hence, every measures that china has taken against you, the instigator, no matter how whether china gains or even cross the original LAC, should be counted as a justified defensive act. Any 'offensive' later on, given your admission, is a justified preventive measure against the reckless behavior of the indians.
 

Xizor

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I do know that. I just wasn't aware VK Singh was talking about Arunachal Pradesh.
South Tibet / Arunachal Pradesh is a big question mark. I admitted my own limited understanding of the dynamics that rule the region.

Everything from the interaction of tribals there with the governments of respective countries, borders, aftermath of 1962, China's decisions in the region etc... No qualitative discussion has happened. I'm pretty sure the material is there but owing to the region's remoteness, it's just there.

Shannan /Tibet consists of 11 counties. Cuno overlaps with Arunachal.
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Indians love to claim that the Chinese are "little single-child emperors" and that they are a "martial race". But the truth is that the so-called "martial race" never feels secure enough to challenge the Chinese unless they outnumber then 10~20 to one. When the going gets tough, the Chinese fight to the death to avoid capture, whereas the "martial race" gets captured by the dozens or die running away from the field of battle.
 
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