High tech Indian cameras,could not spot anything across the LAC in past one year,funny..hope Indian army also releases videos of its pull back from Kailash range
Ladakh Flash Point
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A publicity stunt for a populace that isn't much informed or even aware of ground realities. The quick withdrawal of China, with massive mobilization and speed, is seen as a win while the more informed observer would realize that it signifies the overall capabilities of the PLA.
But I was quite amused at how there were attempts to twist that as "China readily complying with India's demands". The Twitter threads were very funny to read.
No one is asking the important question - how relatively quickly can India mobilize and move? How does India compare to the pace in which China Builds, demolishes, transports infrastructure and equipments.
The PLA is farther from the Commie army that they have made themselves believe. Well, the senior Indian military leaders have a different view of the adversary compared to the public and I guess it's all that matters.
We would've happily shot down your Flankers and Mirage2Ks, but they bugged out and abandoned that Bison. They were supposed to be covering your Mig. Instead they ran away as soon as we rippled a few Fox 3s. No attempt was made to re-engage, while your Mig got caught in the kill box with zero support. Forget about your jammed comms, bad missiles and lack of proper tactics for a second. At least Abhinandan engaged and went for a kill. That "obsolete Mig" is the only Indian involved that day that I actually respect.
And it doesn't end there. After your Mig was splashed, for all the bollywood movies about "surgical commando strikes," zero effort was made to launch a SAR mission to recover your splashed pilot, who was basically like 10 feet over the border. People on both sides of the fence saw where your Mig went down. They were literally filming him on their phones as he floated down. But where were your "brave jawans"? Why didn't they come to rescue him? The entire episode showed a complete lack of fighting will and teamwork, not to mention the sheer incompetence of splashing your own chopper in a panic.
And to bring this back on topic, there is a parallel between that episode and what is happening right now in Ladakh. When we returned your splashed pilot, India erupted in victorious celebrations. Just like when the PLA gave you a token gesture in Ladakh (which most likely has nothing to do with India, and everything to do with a newly elected Biden), again, you begin a bollywood victory parade.
There appears to be a common theme here:
1) Abinandan splashed: no effort trying to recover their pilot.
2) 20 dead in Galwan: no effort trying to locate their dead till the next day after given permission by the PLA.
More fanboyish claims.
MiG 21s were used as a delaying action as we did not want to risk our 2 Su-30 & 2 Mirage 2000 as they were outnumbered 6:1 until the 24 Su-30/MiG-29 arrived as reinforcements from bases in Punjab and Haryana.
But PAF too did not want to engage when outnumbered as simply turned back to their bases when Indian reinforcements started arriving.
Also Abhinandan crash location was 7 km inside POK which means it is impossible to rescue him as neither India nor Pakistan can mount an op so deep in peacetime along the heaily fortified LOC
wrong. North korea uses Mig17/19 but that does not mean thry are not obsolete.
India lost depsang plains 15 years back as previous govt were meek compared to Modi. Which can be seen by fact India retaliated after Pulwama during Modi (through Balakot overtly and Ormara overtly) and also after Uri (overt action LoC and covert action in Quetta) whereas despite dozens of teror attacks congress took no such steps.
And yes in India there is no neutral media either excessively pro Modi or total anti Modi.
More like updates from the Jai Hind alternate reality.
To where does India stop Chinese from Patrolling if China is stopping India from Patrolling?
Or is it a different region you are talking about? Why do India try to "patrol" a region which it has never patrolled for "15 years". And if a small Chinese force is able to stop, doesn't that speak much about Chinese assertiveness?
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What real world? You just said all Indian sources are either pro-Modi or anti-Modi, nothing neutral. The claims of territorial loss also come from Indian officials; why's this one better? Anything that claims that India backed off China is clearly false. There is nothing in India's recent or long term history that suggests it could do that; there is only incompetence and chest-thumping to cover incompetence. In the end, the problem is that there is no real world in India; everything is BS. And you're just picking the BS view that you like the most and pretending everything else is BS, which is what they say of your view too. In other words, you're just another crab calling other crabs crabs.
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