Ladakh Flash Point

siegecrossbow said:

I think the assumption that China will withdraw from Finger 4 is ridiculous. THey spent months building all the infrastructure and fortifications and will they take time blowing them up/dismantling them or are they just gonna leave it for the Indian Army?

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Yes its absolutely ridiculous. How could China trust India to a gentlemen's agreement after everything that's happened in 2019 and 2020?

What guarantees are there that Indian troops would not occupy the disputed areas once the PLA had retreated? None, because this BJP India has a horrible track record of backstabbing, opportunism, and no respect to agreements.

The next step for China should be to build a DMZ. With fences, barb wires, and mines. Covered by sentry drones and UAVs. India could send terrorists over at some point. Just like their BRAS experiment with Pakistan.

Global Times says ""
On September 4, defense ministers from China and India held talks in Moscow, during which Wei Fenghe, China's Defense Minister, said that the reasons and truth behind the current tense border situation between China and India are very clear, and the responsibility lies entirely with the Indian side. China will not lose one inch of its territory and the military has the resolution, capability and confidence to safeguard the country's sovereignty and territorial integrity.
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Dolcevita said:

Oh well. India defeated and retreating. Why is nobody surprise.
Wise move though before it becomes a rout.

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Indian media,newspapers,Tv has been rated worldwide as number one in spreading Fake and False new about its neighbours China,Pakistan,Nepal borders, since long time.

Has anyone heard about PLA soldiers used microwave weapons on Indian soldiers?

jfy1155 said:

Has anyone heard about PLA soldiers used microwave weapons on Indian soldiers?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1327934220967292929

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Yes I've heard of this too. I haven't been able to find any solid source on it. So it depends on how much you want to trust 金政委. Previously he was on the money when he talked about DF-19 ahead of the 2019 military parade, but he's also been wrong on stuff.

The terrain is very complex, the most effective way to destroy enemy fortifications and structures is by using large bombs. China has MOAB fabrication technology, but it might be better to buy FOAB from Russia with TOT.

Maybe something like this?

jfy1155 said:

Maybe something like this?

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This is V-Mads. From another report i've read it says Indian troops experienced nausea, couldnt focus and weird sound reverberating in their ears. The described symptoms is very similar to what happened in Cuba years ago. Its sort of sonic type weapon causing mild trauma.

FangYuan said:

The terrain is very complex, the most effective way to destroy enemy fortifications and structures is by using large bombs. China has MOAB fabrication technology, but it might be better to buy FOAB from Russia with TOT.

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These thermobaric weapons are all pretty similar are they not? China invented an entirely new explosive (I recall being either the third explosives type ever invented) with the first explosives type being gunpowder, followed by dynamite (Nobel) which all modern explosives are based on including plastic explosives. Recall reading this third new explosive has been applied to the Chinese super bomb or " descendent of all bombs" . Could be wrong though and confusing myself because it is also a thermobaric weapon so probably acts upon totally different principles but the news came out around the same time many years ago.

Anyway Chinese super bomb can probably be scaled up and down so no point buying something relatively basic. There's literally no point actually. I remember reading the disclosure made it appear that the Chinese bomb can be scaled up to deliver more energy than the Russian version which is already more potent (allegedly) than the American MOAB. It's all a matter of size and weight for delivery and so they made it fit on the H-6.

Even National Interest reported on it eventually.

ougoah said:

Anyway Chinese super bomb can probably be scaled up and down so no point buying something relatively basic. There's literally no point actually. I remember reading the disclosure made it appear that the Chinese bomb can be scaled up to deliver more energy than the Russian version which is already more potent (allegedly) than the American MOAB. It's all a matter of size and weight for delivery and so they made it fit on the H-6.

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Maybe China's MOAB is better than Russia's FOAB. But having two options is better than one. Moreover, the technology that creates FOAB is very special, China can use it as a platform to develop more advanced weapons. At present, the relationship between the two countries is very good and China is not short of money, buying FOAB with TOT is a good business.