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@escobar Well, no way to solve that debate between 2 people saying the other has a misunderstanding issue. Only way is to check how many likes each person got. If you think 10 people misunderstood and 10 people say you misunderstand, a sane person would have his answer, which is no guarantee for you.

What is his beef with China? What has China ever done to him or his country?
 

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Since now the topic of navy is coming up, this just happened to show up on scope for me:

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Yet, as the navy notes with a twinge of regret, the four warships are far from being fully functional. All four were commissioned between 2014 and 2020 without two critical items of equipment—a towed array sonar and surface-to-air missiles (SAMs).

So we have four ASW ships without towed sonar array and only AAA for air defence.
 

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What is his beef with China? What has China ever done to him or his country?
China dared to be successful. China dared to attempt to reclaim her position. China dared to never submit to others. China dared to seek its own destiny its way.

Sometimes I wonder why is there so much hate. I could understand the " China supporting Pak" argument. But the hate is just so strong that it has to be more than that.

India is trying to find a convenient target to blame its problems on. It has blamed its untouchables and Muslims for domestic problems. It needs China to share the blame for its external shortcomings.
 

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This is interesting. Basically in the transcript for the 2+2 meeting recently, the US version said India's defence minister Rajnath Singh said:
India is challenged by “reckless aggression on our northern borders”

But India is trying to get US to change the transcript claiming Singh never said that, or there was an error in translation.
 

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This is interesting. Basically in the transcript for the 2+2 meeting recently, the US version said India's defence minister Rajnath Singh said:


But India is trying to get US to change the transcript claiming Singh never said that, or there was an error in translation.
I don't get it, what's Modi goal anyway?
Did he want to have Schrodinger Ladakh situation or something?
 

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I don't get it, what's Modi goal anyway?
Did he want to have Schrodinger Ladakh situation or something?
My take is India wants to use Ladakh and China as a distraction for domestic issue. This we've long discusses and suspected. India doesn't want things to actually escalate to a 1962 type situation. They also think since this sort of fits with US pivot to Asia strategy they could score some freebies off the Americans without actually doing anything.

Meanwhile the US want to get India to actually make a move on China, since no one else in the SEA or even Japan/South Korea wants to play along. Indian politicians are well aware of this intention and they don't actually want to be cannon fodder for US. So you have this awkward situation of "he said/she said".
 

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But India is trying to get US to change the transcript claiming Singh never said that, or there was an error in translation.
Cowards; what poor form.

The fact that they invited white anglo supremacists into join their fight against china should be proof enough that India must be targeted for disintegration. India Delenda Est.
 
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