Their Prime Minister just admitted that the Chinese didn’t occupy Indian land. What do you think?
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Their Prime Minister just admitted that the Chinese didn’t occupy Indian land. What do you think?
Could just be politics to temper Indian nationalism.
Tbh, I doubt it would take a few years, depending on what happens after COVID and other geopolitical events, India could be doing something much sooner. Plus there are still a lot of voices in India that are not convinced and most are still calling out to give China a bloody nose. So I doubt this peace, if it is what it is, will last for too long.
Right, India will try to (and fail) to compete with China in other geopolitical dimensions. However, purely from the LAC border, I doubt they would be capable of doing anything. There has been factual changes on the ground whereby now China will now be able to station border guards at the key points at the furthest points of the LAC, well supported and connected by paved roads all year round. There will no longer be any encroachment.
Fair enough, once the PLA establish a permanent presence in Galwan Valley area, the Indian roads and infrastructure are basically compromised and their nearby bases will be at risk should something happen.
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A few observations. The Indians lost some higher ranking officers, a colonel killed and a Brigadier general being captured, beaten, released, captured again, beaten again and released again... The colonel was a regimen commander. The fact that he was killed suggests that the combat order of his > 1000 troops had completely collapsed when he was exposed to lethal danger. Similarly with the brigadier general. When such high ranking officers are directly exposed to bodily harm, that suggests absolute disaster for their troops.
The Indian media and military have been complaining about their boys being unarmed and savagely ambushed by the PLA. Let's forget about whether this is fake news or not. Let's assume this is true. Two opposing militaries are camped next to each other and have been going through some serious conflicts and struggles for months. No one can deny the tense situation in the region and the emotions of the soldiers of both sides. In this kind of tense situation, how can any professional military allow themselves be ambushed??? Where is your guard? Where is your security perimeter? So everyone simply goes to bed at night, without setting any security at the camp site? How can any professional soldier be caught unarmed when your camp site is so close to your enemy? We know that the Indians carry batons and shields during patrols. So they have weapons. Why were they caught unarmed?
It has been so puzzling to me that the Indians are now describing the situation as how their innocent boys had been slaughtered. It would make sense if they have sent untrained civilians, women, kids, seniors, etc. However, this was their professional military. Even more, this was supposed to be their most elite mountainous troops. Elite soldiers of all nations in the history of mankind have always been described as some of the most ferocious predators, lions, tigers, wolves, etc. Attacking their opponents with no mercy. How can the Indians now describe their most elite troops as a whole bunch of innocent sheep caught unprepared and unable to fight back???
About ambushes. Some of the most ferocious predators are ambush predators, like tigers. Some of the most elite soldiers in the world rely heavily on stealth and ambush their enemies, like Ninja and the US Navy SEALs. Ambush is a highly effective and widely used combat tactic in military conflicts throughout the world. The SEAL Team 6 ambushed Bin Laden a few years in a surprise attack and killed everyone on site. So if the Indian troops were really ambushed by the PLA, they had lost a true military conflict, been outmatched by their opponents using a superior tactic, and failed as a military unit. Instead of crying out for how savage the PLA was, they should apologize to the Indian people for losing a military conflict, explain to the Indian taxpayers how their most elite troops failed at the very moment when their training was most needed.
The Indian media and military have been complaining about their boys being unarmed and savagely ambushed by the PLA. Let's forget about whether this is fake news or not. Let's assume this is true. Two opposing militaries are camped next to each other and have been going through some serious conflicts and struggles for months. No one can deny the tense situation in the region and the emotions of the soldiers of both sides. In this kind of tense situation, how can any professional military allow themselves be ambushed??? Where is your guard? Where is your security perimeter? So everyone simply goes to bed at night, without setting any security at the camp site? How can any professional soldier be caught unarmed when your camp site is so close to your enemy? We know that the Indians carry batons and shields during patrols. So they have weapons. Why were they caught unarmed?
It has been so puzzling to me that the Indians are now describing the situation as how their innocent boys had been slaughtered. It would make sense if they have sent untrained civilians, women, kids, seniors, etc. However, this was their professional military. Even more, this was supposed to be their most elite mountainous troops. Elite soldiers of all nations in the history of mankind have always been described as some of the most ferocious predators, lions, tigers, wolves, etc. Attacking their opponents with no mercy. How can the Indians now describe their most elite troops as a whole bunch of innocent sheep caught unprepared and unable to fight back???
About ambushes. Some of the most ferocious predators are ambush predators, like tigers. Some of the most elite soldiers in the world rely heavily on stealth and ambush their enemies, like Ninja and the US Navy SEALs. Ambush is a highly effective and widely used combat tactic in military conflicts throughout the world. The SEAL Team 6 ambushed Bin Laden a few years in a surprise attack and killed everyone on site. So if the Indian troops were really ambushed by the PLA, they had lost a true military conflict, been outmatched by their opponents using a superior tactic, and failed as a military unit. Instead of crying out for how savage the PLA was, they should apologize to the Indian people for losing a military conflict, explain to the Indian taxpayers how their most elite troops failed at the very moment when their training was most needed.
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Good point. Honestly, a lot of the depictions of this 'battle' echo back to some of the tales in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Ambushes in mountain valleys, clueless overconfident commanders with complete disregard for orders and caution, charging in then encircled and decimated, damming and release of water (LOL) to demoralize enemy troops. If India had any military culture based more on strategy and less on pomp, such an embarrassing and humiliating outcome would not have happened. This is exactly what separates Chinese and Indian civilizations.
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But where is Lu bu, Zhang fei, Guang yu, and Zhao Yun? Their death again would have way more impact
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Obviously Gwan Yu was not killed.
How else can you explain 20 deaths of soldiers including a Colonel without firearms?
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