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Gatekeeper

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The problem with religion these days is that everything can be twisted and turn to suit ones ends. Just take a look at the UK and the USA with how the Bible has the Ten Commandments and yet these laws get broken almost every second in either countries and they still profess to follow the world of Christ as though they did nothing wrong. I mean what the hell

Well, no look further than Trump. Committed adultery which is one of the ten commandments, yet his armies of fans still think he's a true Christian.
 

emblem21

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Well, no look further than Trump. Committed adultery which is one of the ten commandments, yet his armies of fans still think he's a true Christian.
Yeah, those supporters are so going to suffer one of these days. You can be sure that this election is going to be the breaking point for so many people. Anyone that paints Trump as a hero needs to have there heads examined.
 

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This video assumes the rooms in the barracks will be permanently pumped with O2. That is a ridiculous assumption. Alpine climbers slowly make their way to base camp, acclimatizing on the way. But these soldiers are quickly transported from low-altitude straight up, without acclimatizing.

The way this would work is that the barracks supplement O2 for new soldiers, as their body takes its time to acclimatize, and then oxygen levels in their rooms would be normalized to the environment. O2 supplementation probably lasts for a week or two. It is a very good idea, because this will allow the PLA to flood in massive forces to this Area of Operations from low altitudes, in a very short timeline. The Indian army wishes it had this capability, it barely has 'barracks' up there to begin with.
 
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This video assumes the rooms in the barracks will be permanently pumped with O2. That is a ridiculous assumption. Alpine climbers slowly make their way to base camp, acclimatizing on the way. But these soldiers are quickly transported from low-altitude straight up, without acclimatizing.

The way this would work is that the barracks supplement O2 for new soldiers, as their body takes its time to acclimatize, and then oxygen levels in their rooms would be normalized to the environment. O2 supplementation probably lasts for a week or two. It is a very good idea, because this will allow the PLA to flood in massive forces to this Area of Operations from low altitudes, in a very short timeline. The Indian army wishes it had this capability, it barely has 'barracks' up there to begin with.
How would that work? Wouldn't soldiers then instantly get altitude sickness when they left the barracks? Seems like it would be just easier to acclimatize the standard way rather than having a bunch of soldiers doing nothing
 

ougoah

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How would that work? Wouldn't soldiers then instantly get altitude sickness when they left the barracks? Seems like it would be just easier to acclimatize the standard way rather than having a bunch of soldiers doing nothing

In Mohsin's theory, it works by slowly acclimating soldiers and offering a sort of safety net if and when they require a more comfortable environment. It's not an all or nothing thing like some Indians might believe. It's not like you have to learn by going all out suddenly. In fact it's almost definitely easier to take things step by step and slowly getting more used to the routine and environment.

Having an oxygen area is much preferably to not even having that option. And no it isn't like Indian soldiers are more suited or tougher. The deployed guys there whether Indian or Chinese are mostly all acclimated but offering some comforts actually does improve effectiveness, not the opposite.
 

silentlurker

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Right, I get that it can act as a safety net, but in terms of general acclimatization how is it better than the traditional method of starting at lower altitude and slowly moving higher up?

Then soldiers can still do exercises/patrols instead of cooped up in barracks
 

ougoah

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Right, I get that it can act as a safety net, but in terms of general acclimatization how is it better than the traditional method of starting at lower altitude and slowly moving higher up?

Then soldiers can still do exercises/patrols instead of cooped up in barracks

I would imagine they still do exactly that. All this is is a nice additional creature comfort if not a potentially life saving thing to have around. It is not a substitution for proper training and the more conventional methods of acclimating soldiers.
 

plawolf

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I think this is to aid and speed up acclimatisation while also reducing the risks.

The barracks would not be pumped to sea level oxygen levels to start with, so when the troops arrive, their bodies would start the acclimatisation process even while in the barracks.

You could then gradually reduce the added oxygen levels over time, and supplement that with ever increasing outdoors activities.

The analogy I can think of it’s interval training, where you alternate between sprinting and jogging to maximise your workout effects.

The soldiers would start going outside for exercises when they first arrive, but those would probably be limited in time and intensity to avoid putting the men in danger. They can then go back to the barracks to recover much quicker, and be ready to head out again fresh to train some more. With the duration and intensity of the outdoors activities gradually ramped up even as extra oxygen levels inside the barracks are reduced.

That is more akin to the high altitude training that elite athletes undergone, whereby science is employed to get troops accliaatisatised in the shortest time with the least risk possible, and should be significantly more efficient and effective than traditional methods, as that just allows you to gradually get used to the reducing oxygen levels without being able to do the intensive ‘sprint’ training of going out in actual full low oxygen conditions until you are at the deployment area itself.
 
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