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Sardaukar20

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Breadbox said:
I’m pretty sure it started at that time because of the Cuban Missile Crisis.
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I still think that the Cuban Missile Crisis is largely coincidental. But Mao Zedong was aware of that coming crisis and used it to China's advantage.

Nevertheless, the buildup of the 1962 war is eerily similar to what is happening now.

1) A number confrontations.
2) Unclear directives from Indian leadership, including authorizing troops to open fire on PLA forces if threatened.
3) A deadly skirmish.
4) Both sides preparing for conflict.
5) Indian commanders assuming PLA troops are cowards.
6) Indian PM orders the IA to push the PLA out of 'Indian territory'. *This, thankfully hasn't happened yet.
7) War
 
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Sardaukar20 said:
I still think that the Cuban Missile Crisis is largely coincidental. But Mao Zedong was aware of that coming crisis and used it to China's advantage.

Nevertheless, the buildup of the 1962 war is eerily similar to what is happening now.

1) A number confrontations.
2) Unclear directives from Indian leadership, including authorizing troops to open fire on PLA forces if threatened.
3) A deadly skirmish.
4) Both sides preparing for conflict.
5) Indian commanders assuming PLA troops are cowards.
6) Indian PM orders the IA to push the PLA out of 'Indian territory'. *This, thankfully hasn't happened yet.
7) War
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Well yes, but why is it during the months when snowfall sealed off the mountain passes?
 
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Breadbox said:
Well yes, but why is it during the months when snowfall sealed off the mountain passes?
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Snowfall makes logistics difficult for both sides so I assume it makes escalation difficult. It won’t get out of hand as easily if you can only send a limited amount of men/materiel.
 
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Breadbox said:
Well yes, but why is it during the months when snowfall sealed off the mountain passes?
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It was just before snowfall sealed off the mountain passes. It's good timing if you want a limited conflict and not a protracted war as the change in weather will force things to cool down by then. Being able to limit the duration of the conflict is especially important if you only have enough supplies for a few weeks of fighting, which was the case for China in 1962 and the case for India now.
 
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Well yes, but why is it during the months when snowfall sealed off the mountain passes?
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I think this is a deliberate strategy of the PLA's 'defensive counter-attack' operation. The PLA offensives in the 1962 war always tries to choose the most unexpected routes. Such as using mountain trails instead of roads, and fording rivers instead of crossing bridges. This gave the PLA many opportunities to catch the IA by surprise, allowing the PLA to obtain key victories in the war. The strategy is to hit the enemy when and where he least expects.

Even in 2020, the PLA still manages to surprise the IA with their movements. This is a testament to the wisdom of the current PLA commanders, learning from the good strategies of the 1962 war. Though I think this time is India's turn to do the 'defensive counter-attack'. I doubt that the current IA commanders have the same level of wisdom and competence.
 
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Sardaukar20 said:
I think this is a deliberate strategy of the PLA's 'defensive counter-attack' operation. The PLA offensives in the 1962 war always tries to choose the most unexpected routes. Such as using mountain trails instead of roads, and fording rivers instead of crossing bridges. This gave the PLA many opportunities to catch the IA by surprise, allowing the PLA to obtain key victories in the war. The strategy is to hit the enemy when and where he least expects.

Even in 2020, the PLA still manages to surprise the IA with their movements. This is a testament to the wisdom of the current PLA commanders, learning from the good strategies of the 1962 war. Though I think this time is India's turn to do the 'defensive counter-attack'. I doubt that the current IA commanders have the same level of wisdom and competence.
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An Indian offensive given the current state of the Indian military would be disastrous and would advance India's defeat by a good couple of weeks, especially since the Chinese hold all the key positions along the border.
 
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Pretty much it sums up the Indians thinking that PLA is weaker than them right now.

"There is a current in the Indian military that would like to erase the drubbing India took in its 1962 border war. The thinking is that the current Indian military is far stronger and better armed than it was 58 years ago, and it has more experience than the Chinese People’s Liberation Army. The last time the Chinese army went to war was its ill-fated invasion of Vietnam in 1979.

But that is dangerous thinking. India’s “experience” consists mainly of terrorizing Kashmiri civilians and an occasional firefight with lightly armed insurgents. In 1962, India’s and China’s economies were similar in size. Today, China’s economy is five times larger and its military budget four times greater."

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Oh no... Doctor Robotnik is preparing 'blitzkrieg'... someone call Sonic !

Sega Explains How Dr. Robotnik Came To Be Called Eggman - Siliconera
 
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What is the point of this whole border dispute? I really don't get it. India wants everyone to withdraw back to their positions from May and to demarcate the LAC. China refuses. China is in the wrong. Period. They are purposefully keeping this dispute open so as to drive India into the hands of the US even more.
 
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