No Chinese of any note would be willing to subject themselves to the vile abuse ,racism and hatred of debating these idiots on their nat'l platforms.In fact Chinese advancing exponentially in every field and simply ignoring these trash-who so desire attention and status-would be a grave mistake to have any contact with them.It would only legitimize these BJP bhakts-let them rot in their own impotence.
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well, don't underestimate Indian prowess.
"whatever China can achieve, so can India." good to see them having ambitions, smiles.
I heard India is planning to send their astronauts to the Moon in 2030. Good on them, and I am sure they will have decent toilet facilities on their lunar lander.
There is world of difference between idle dreaming and real hard work from square one not grandiose ,jealousy filled,red- eyed envy and hatred for those that do succeed.Look at that Modi's inept gov't of india showing pictures of Beijing's "Starfish" nat't airport as their own and other stolen pictures of CHINESE roads airports bridges as their own achievement.Pathetic losers in all spheres.Just look at Bangladesh's Walton industries etc providing good quality appliances etc for many years and now is confident to export to the world.They are humble,practical,pragmatic and realistic and hard working and consequently has achieved a higher per capita GDP then copium addled india.I respect that and Bangladesh will be a good partner and will benefit from RCEP
More Indian copium. This time by the defence minister, Rajnath Singh. 38-50 Chinese Jawans killed as per an Australian-based paper? It must be this piece of rag:
The Klaxon. A one-man nut journalist blog. Only the Indian media is quoting it. Not even Western MSM dares to quote it. Because its a noisy Klaxon. All noise and no substance. Such as these BS quotes:
At night? Didn't the battle start in the day? BTW Qi Fabao was not present with 150 soldiers. The evidence is clear as day:
What attack?
The truth: a PLA negotiation team was overwhelmed by hundreds of Indian Jawans in a cowardly ambush. Still, they never retreated, and fought to the last man. It was the Indian Jawans, whom despite having the initial advantage, panicked and routed at the end.
Who are they? Do they even exists? Why would you trust random Weibo users? Why not go ask the Indian Army, and Indian intelligence to present their evidence? I'm sure that if they had it, they would put it out there to dispute the Chinese government. Instead, all Galwan Valley evidence that we had received are from the Chinese government. Where are the Indian evidence to disprove the Chinese 'propaganda'?
If the PLA soldiers really 'panicked and run'. Then why were there scores of Indian Jawans surrendering to the PLA? I don't know about you, but this doesn't look like an Indian victory:
Rajnath Singh quoting the Klaxon is the level of the Defence Minister that India has. Where is his evidence that 38-50 PLA soldiers were KIA? If it was really true that dozens of PLA soldies drowned, there must be plenty of evidence to show. But off course, India doesn't operate with facts and evidence. Luckily for India, China is busy with the Winter Olympics. Lets us see later if there are anymore juicy leaks from China to surprise the Jai Hinds.
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lol that's fairly pathetic for the indians to be this desperate for their own defence minister (who knows most of the details of what transpired) to sink to a level where he uses a one man conspiracy theory fake news publication on what happened.
The Australian guy wasn't there. He has no sources. He does not want to say where his information comes from. The indians are quoting him. What a desperate and laughable circle jerk. Australian guy most likely got his "intel" from indians themselves.
The indians have been desperately trying for any media publication to publish their story and their fantasy version of events but even the most rabidly anti-China publications of any repute will not carry the indian bullshit because it simply stinks far too much. After all, China has documented all the indian soldiers captured (over 100) and the indians somehow want everyone to believe they "won" but captured 0 Chinese soldiers on that night while they themselves suffered dozens of casualties, many, many dozens captured by the Chinese, and yet the indians won... right. Only China provided evidence and proven to have spoken the truth on this matter. Chinese said 20 indians dead, true. Chinese said Indian officers and commander captured (commander killed) true. Photos and videos released from Chinese side. Indian captives returned after documented. Indians... well they keep shouting nonsense in almost pitiful desperation but these people are so shameless they won't even quit in such monumental defeat.
So far only one no name publication based in the USA (possibly part of Indian propaganda network) and one independent Australian one man operation have parroted Indian BS.
The rest... well.
Evidence.
That's a lot of INSAS rifles captured when only about 1 in 20 indians were carrying INSAS rifles. Sort of goes towards showing just how many indians surrendered, captured, and rescued from the river.
Can't be bothered uploading the videos but it's shameless how the indians want to deny this official statement (an informal one to be sure) and claim these are ... wait for it... Pakistani actors! well lol.
Meanwhile the indians actually hired some actors to play in their bollywood LAC movie. Those actors being Assamese barely even look east asian. The pot calling the silverware black there.
As for TASS... well this happened and the Russians stressed this point as well. Sorry Indians you gotta pay foreign publications even more money for them to continue with your lies. Can see where all Indian budget money is going towards... international propaganda for Indian narrative shaping.
Because Indians ran off and fell into the river and ran in all sorts of directions (which is why they were captured in such huge numbers) the indians are DESPERATE to make people believe that Chinese were the ones who ran off. They paid some loser Australian who runs some conspiracy and fairly rabidly anti-China publication to support their story but neither of these losers have one single atom of evidence and offer zero, not even a hint of their "source".
Meanwhile China makes sure these indians signed admissions in blood, took their rifles (probably cleaned it and returned them like in 1962) and gave the indians first aid.
The Australian guy wasn't there. He has no sources. He does not want to say where his information comes from. The indians are quoting him. What a desperate and laughable circle jerk. Australian guy most likely got his "intel" from indians themselves.
The indians have been desperately trying for any media publication to publish their story and their fantasy version of events but even the most rabidly anti-China publications of any repute will not carry the indian bullshit because it simply stinks far too much. After all, China has documented all the indian soldiers captured (over 100) and the indians somehow want everyone to believe they "won" but captured 0 Chinese soldiers on that night while they themselves suffered dozens of casualties, many, many dozens captured by the Chinese, and yet the indians won... right. Only China provided evidence and proven to have spoken the truth on this matter. Chinese said 20 indians dead, true. Chinese said Indian officers and commander captured (commander killed) true. Photos and videos released from Chinese side. Indian captives returned after documented. Indians... well they keep shouting nonsense in almost pitiful desperation but these people are so shameless they won't even quit in such monumental defeat.
So far only one no name publication based in the USA (possibly part of Indian propaganda network) and one independent Australian one man operation have parroted Indian BS.
The rest... well.
Evidence.
That's a lot of INSAS rifles captured when only about 1 in 20 indians were carrying INSAS rifles. Sort of goes towards showing just how many indians surrendered, captured, and rescued from the river.
Can't be bothered uploading the videos but it's shameless how the indians want to deny this official statement (an informal one to be sure) and claim these are ... wait for it... Pakistani actors! well lol.
Meanwhile the indians actually hired some actors to play in their bollywood LAC movie. Those actors being Assamese barely even look east asian. The pot calling the silverware black there.
As for TASS... well this happened and the Russians stressed this point as well. Sorry Indians you gotta pay foreign publications even more money for them to continue with your lies. Can see where all Indian budget money is going towards... international propaganda for Indian narrative shaping.
Because Indians ran off and fell into the river and ran in all sorts of directions (which is why they were captured in such huge numbers) the indians are DESPERATE to make people believe that Chinese were the ones who ran off. They paid some loser Australian who runs some conspiracy and fairly rabidly anti-China publication to support their story but neither of these losers have one single atom of evidence and offer zero, not even a hint of their "source".
Meanwhile China makes sure these indians signed admissions in blood, took their rifles (probably cleaned it and returned them like in 1962) and gave the indians first aid.
If the Chinese side ran off and 40 something PLA were killed, how come not a single formal statement refuting China's claim that 4 PLA were killed. How come only Indian officers were killed while the Chinese officers are alive? How come many, many dozens of Indians were captured and detained for at least a day with senior ones detained up to a week by China while the Indians captured 0 Chinese and captured 0 evidence of their claims?
How come China's statements and claims lines up PERFECTLY with both India and China's official statements and the available evidence, along with how the strategic situation played out. Hmmmmmm. Methink Indians have been trying a bit of this...?
How come China's statements and claims lines up PERFECTLY with both India and China's official statements and the available evidence, along with how the strategic situation played out. Hmmmmmm. Methink Indians have been trying a bit of this...?
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It used to be the Indian media and ex-military men who did all the fake news. Now the Defence Minister himself is involved too. The Indian government is no longer hiding behind the media and ex-military men to play their fake news. Now its directly from the mouth of a sitting minister. So now, there is no more ambiguity that the Indian leadership themselves are involved with their fake news. Are they more desperate now? I certainly hope so!
I suspect China picking Qi Fabao for the Olympic torch relay was no diplomatic blunder. It was done on purpose. China is usually quite sensitive on diplomacy, with regards to India. Until 2020, China had always tried to be gentle with Indian feelings, even when the Indian side is going crazy with Sinophobia. But there was no public apology this time. There was no reply to the Indian diplomatic boycott. China must have been sending a message to India. Why? Perhaps so far, all border negotiations have failed. While India is playing even dirtier games, like sponsoring terrorism that have taken Chinese lives. It looks like China has already given up on diplomacy with India. Qi Fabao's Olympic torch relay is a sign that China no longer respects India. This might be a sign of things to come for India. There are no more carrots. Now its all stick.
I suspect China picking Qi Fabao for the Olympic torch relay was no diplomatic blunder. It was done on purpose. China is usually quite sensitive on diplomacy, with regards to India. Until 2020, China had always tried to be gentle with Indian feelings, even when the Indian side is going crazy with Sinophobia. But there was no public apology this time. There was no reply to the Indian diplomatic boycott. China must have been sending a message to India. Why? Perhaps so far, all border negotiations have failed. While India is playing even dirtier games, like sponsoring terrorism that have taken Chinese lives. It looks like China has already given up on diplomacy with India. Qi Fabao's Olympic torch relay is a sign that China no longer respects India. This might be a sign of things to come for India. There are no more carrots. Now its all stick.
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Chinese nonintervention policy is as outdated as having only 300 nukes...
Should be actively promoting Indians to become CEO of all Western nations
Yep India's actions in Ladakh -> PLA response, negotiation from position of strength after PLA occupied forward positions and pushed back while Indians captured in multiple dozens. Negotiation yielded partial resolution but no full buffer settled.
India chucks an absolute hissy fit like a headless chicken said every lie from Taiwan shooting down Su-35 to 100 PLA killed -> China's response was to stay on course and provide statements and evidence to back it up.
India went on a rampage of anti-China demonstrations on their streets, burning effigies and Chinese flag...whatever man you do to your own belongings whatever you want
but then Indians started banning Chinese apps and boycotting goods. In following months, Chinese goods imported into India held steady and eventually went up. India now purchases more from China than back in 2019.Indian response to this was more fake news and getting their paid domestic and foreign journalists to write absolute BS with zero support and evidence just so Modi won't look like a defeated loser with no strategy, no plan, no ability, no competence. Modi damage control and protection in full swing by entire Indian IT Cell and propaganda apparatus. China's response to more indian fake news was more photographic and video evidence that again debunked some more Indian lies and worked towards showing what China said from day 1 was accurate.
Chinese investment into India reduced. Planned Chinese investments to create Indian manufacturing lines inside India for Chinese electronic goods like Hisense, Haier, Xiaomi etc either stifled or reduced. Good... for China.
After getting two (possibly three) buffer zones out of India in exchange for PLA withdrawal, no-man's land stretch (20%) is unstable due to buffer not covering entire land and only pockets of confrontation zones of PLA's previous forward positions. China seems to be using Arunachal Pradesh dispute and claims to encourage Indians to finally let go of their Aksai Chin claims. Hasn't worked because Modi would be murdered by nationalistic bhakts if he formally ceded India's claims on western Tibet. Well at least the situation as it is is better than during confrontation. India unlikely to invade due to supply chain through high altitude and tricky terrain. Rest is just carry on as usual, the more China moves well ahead of India the more assured the security is. In the meantime, buff up Pakistan a bit more. India's been enjoying Pakistan's current internal struggle against Balochistan groups and TTP Taliban.
As long as Indian neighbours continue progress and actually forge ahead, India would be the one left behind in the South Asian region and have its old influence and respect eroded.
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