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siegecrossbow

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Simply Indian desperation and stupidity as more they shriek and whine the more people will google Qi FaBao(his choice as relay runner was no accident)and Galwan Valley clash and see the truth in the humiliating Indian defeat and territorial loss.People will see the power and grandeur of the Chinese Olympics etc and no one will believe any Indian delusions-great move by China.

These fake news crew are like friggin maggots. Even though they can't physically hurt you they can still elicit feelings of disgust, thus achieving their original purpose.
 

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These fake news crew are like friggin maggots. Even though they can't physically hurt you they can still elicit feelings of disgust, thus achieving their original purpose.
I know they can't DO anything(really for themselves or for India-blah,blah,blah-lie,lie,lie-real hardwork is actually foreign to them) ..but they are such an irritant.And they know most people can't read Chinese and this military graveyard is simply a PLA graveyard.It's like a idiot blogger saying they defeated USA by showing pictures of Arlington Military Cemetery-such morons.The internet is actually plays into an Indian national trait-useless talk and argument.
 

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I know they can't DO anything(really for themselves or for India-blah,blah,blah-lie,lie,lie-real hardwork is actually foreign to them) ..but they are such an irritant.And they know most people can't read Chinese and this military graveyard is simply a PLA graveyard.It's like a idiot blogger saying they defeated USA by showing pictures of Arlington Military Cemetery-such morons.The internet is actually plays into an Indian national trait-useless talk and argument.

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Ringsword

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Wow,I've heard about the dissatisfaction even among BJP IT cells and if the economic recession/depression is worsened the Modi and India is in very big trouble and no amount of anti-Chinese internet hate is going to stop this disaster for India.BTW Modi seeing Putin in Beijing announcing the stronger ties has got to burn his ass and also Modi -petty sh*t as he is has missed the golden opportunity of a revived economy by disdaining RCEP(China's Greater East(and Southern)Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere)-minus the brutal killings ,rape plundering that Tokyo is so fond of.BTW I found the Beijing Opening Ceremonies pretty good-super tech advanced and hell everyone know it's in China-by Chinese.Flag raising portion by Honour Guards my favourite .
 

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Perhaps not just acquiescence, but China's active participation. Now wouldn't that be something? China and the US teaming up seems completely alien to me today, but then again China and Russia's alliance today would have seemed inconceivable to me if I were around during the Sino-Soviet split.
During Deng's rule, the U.S. and China were all friendly. The difference being, China was not number two. The Soviet Union was and China was weak economically and militarily. When the U.S. finally accept our number two status, we would be looking around to see who can displace that position. The only country which would have the potential one day is India. In two decades time, India would still be prodding along. Breaking them up would not cost that much for the U.S. We would still be armed to the teeth, sending some of that arm to the various factions such as the Sikhs along with some military advisors would not be that expensive. We would still control the media and can drum up support, as long as we don't go against the wishes and interests of number one, we would be able to pull it off.

When China secures her position as number one, there would be a lot of work to do. Securing better control of Europe and the U.S. would be the primary focus. Breaking up India, while it might be fine for them, is down the list of priorities. The impetus will primarily come from the U.S. China was once upon a time relegated to back burner, look where that got us. We would definitely not give up an opportunity to topple a potential rival while we are still number two. If the outcome is acceptable to China, they may provide some help in this regard, but leave the heavy lifting to the U.S.
 

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When the U.S. finally accept our number two status,
I admire your honesty and courage in making this assessment, likely after much soul-searching, logical reasoning, and deduction from observations and facts, but no doubt against your emotion and feeling.
As a Chinese, I don't aspire China to overtake USA to be number one, may be just peaceful co-existence with America will do. As Xi said, the Pacific is big enough for China and USA. But alas, a hegemon is a hegemon, she has her own agenda.
 

Ringsword

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I admire your honesty and courage in making this assessment, likely after much soul-searching, logical reasoning, and deduction from observations and facts, but no doubt against your emotion and feeling.
As a Chinese, I don't aspire China to overtake USA to be number one, may be just peaceful co-existence with America will do. As Xi said, the Pacific is big enough for China and USA. But alas, a hegemon is a hegemon, she has her own agenda.
I believe a multi-polar world with great political/military/economic centers is what China sees and wants however USA /West only believes in a unipolar world(them) but no all sphere peer competitors like China.I also believe that India is not a future #2 or #3-too incompetent,too corrupt,too disorganized-a "silly people" ala T.E Lawrence ,Modi is too busy trying to undo 1000 years of muslim/english rule ..but how?Economy stagnant if not receding and the post Covid19 world will not be the same as the previous times.It's been left far behind already.
 

Ringsword

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I believe a multi-polar world with great political/military/economic centers is what China sees and wants however USA /West only believes in a unipolar world(them) but no all sphere peer competitors like China.I also believe that India is not a future #2 or #3-too incompetent,too corrupt,too disorganized-a "silly people" ala T.E Lawrence ,Modi is too busy trying to undo 1000 years of muslim/english rule ..but how?Economy stagnant if not receding and the post Covid19 world will not be the same as the previous times.It's been left far behind already.Indian energies are far better spent building nation,eradicating medieval traditions like caste etc but they rather sit by the side of the road cursing and flinging their cyber/feces at the passing Chinese juggernaut.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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It's interesting to note that whenever there's a debate about China, it's grand ambitions, strategic goals, political aims etc. conducted in every western leaning institutions of higher learning there's a scant availability of actual Chinese person from China to discuss and debate/learn the said topics of curiosity. Take this particular video where India and China relations were discussed and debated yet all the willing and invited participants where all Indians including the moderator. How can one expect to adequately understand China when none of the topic participants are Chinese who can summarize the Chinese perspective on it's long standing issues, challenges, intentions with India. And yet, these same folks are often finding themselves perplexed on why China keeps eating their breakfast, lunch, snack, and dinner.

Nonetheless, the discussion was still informative despite the jaundiced views and implicit bias not to mention an interesting geopolitical ignorance from looking the India VS China challenge from a much broader perspective vis-a-vis U.S.-China rivalry. I have all the books listed and authored from all the guest speakers/presenters on this talk. Although, I have yet to find the time to read each and everyone of their books since I find it difficult to read a book where I already get the sense and feel the content would be just too one sided a.k.a. Jai Hind Bharakt supapowah 2030..nevertheless, I am linking the talk because it's important to actually gauge Indians intentions coming from some of their geopolitical strategic analysts and elites.


 
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