Ladakh Flash Point

ougoah said:

lol this is TejasSpokesman from PDF

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A 1:1 identical post as Kakyan's. It's like the Jai Hind IT Cell trolls are fed a line and narrative and told to spread them even when no one is talking about something.

India is the truest form of 1984. Not China not PRC... India.

This topic isn't even freaking relevant to this thread but the trolls receive instructions to deposit their material everywhere. India only has one weapon, information warfare.

This gem below is also pretty revealing and pretty obvious to anyone who frequent military and political discussions online.

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Make lies, repeat lies, obfuscate truths, call anyone who doesn't agree with names and cheap put downs.

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Sheesh! Disgusting. Reminds me of IT/telephone scammers.

Makes you wonder how many of India’s IT cells are moonlight scammers. Or maybe being IT cell is the side con.

For the sake of India one would hope people of such moral bankruptcy are the exception and not the norm over there.

plawolf said:

Sheesh! Disgusting. Reminds me of IT/telephone scammers.

Makes you wonder how many of India’s IT cells are moonlight scammers. Or maybe being IT cell is the side con.

For the sake of India one would hope people of such moral bankruptcy are the exception and not the norm over there.

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India scam farm

quantumlight said:

India scam farm

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East asian woman southern chinese/hk/vietnamese collecting money. Black woman as well part of the money collection... of course phones are done over in India because Indians speak decent English. The operations are actually quite a good money maker. Something I don't care for. They can rob the West blind for all I care and I'd even stand on their side. At least they're not murdering people to rob them. To be fair for India, so much of the current trouble they are experiencing and giving to China (for instance) is rooted in that history and the consequences of it... which are not all apparent and obvious yet. The west never compensated, barely even acknowledged it.

plawolf said:

Makes you wonder how many of India’s IT cells are moonlight scammers. Or maybe being IT cell is the side con.

For the sake of India one would hope people of such moral bankruptcy are the exception and not the norm over there.

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I actually hope these guys are moonlighting professionals.

Because if they're not, and they're doing this for free... then I'll really feel bad for them lolz

The amount of hours of their life they voluntarily waste on BS would just be a humanitarian tragedy

In case it isn't already clear, the Indian Army never claimed to cross the LAC, as per its statements the Indian army readjusted its positions in response to PLA mobilizations near Black and Helmet Top by moving into Rechin and Rezang La, as well as Magar, Gurung, and lower peaks near Black and helmet Top. All of this was within India's perception, which has not changed since 1962. China's perception, however, is different, its claim is closer to Chushul west of the k=Kailash range. Hence why China's official statement mentioned India violating the LAC>

There is plenty of satellite imagery of exactly where India and CHina had occupied, but that is irrelevant since both sides have now vacated the Kailash Range, which was unoccupied by India since 1962. The point is that prior to August, China's position was that deisengagement at Pangong had to be preceded by India vacating Dhan SIngh Thapa, which is why no progress was made at talks back then. For whatever reason, China removed that demand two months ago. This also shows that China has regularly objected to Indian buildup/infrastructure construction on its side, and vice versa.

twineedle said:

For whatever reason, China removed that demand two months ago. This also shows that China has regularly objected to Indian buildup/infrastructure construction on its side, and vice versa.

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You are reaching when you say China removed the demand for Dhan Singh Thapa later and then use that to say that China objected to Indian infrastructure construction.

Your agenda for that is -
Ultimately, if established, you can use the same arguments for the Gogra 17A region. (where China has its buildup quite away from the LAC that you insist).
You can also use the "China objection to Indian infra" to assert that Galwan was China's fault.

China views India's construction of infrastructure negatively (anyone would do).

1. But Dhan Singh Thapa has been, for long, an Indian Camp. It wasn't recently constructed. So this isn't exactly a new infrastructure.

2. It was the only thing China could ask since there is no other infrastructure in the north Pangong Tso region. What should China have demanded from India in that region other than DST post between 2 and 3?

Xsizor said:

You are reaching when you say China removed the demand for Dhan Singh Thapa later and then use that to say that China objected to Indian infrastructure construction.

Your agenda for that is -
Ultimately, if established, you can use the same arguments for the Gogra 17A region. (where China has its buildup quite away from the LAC that you insist).
You can also use the "China objection to Indian infra" to assert that Galwan was China's fault.

China views India's construction of infrastructure negatively (anyone would do).

1. But Dhan Singh Thapa has been, for long, an Indian Camp. It wasn't recently constructed. So this isn't exactly a new infrastructure.

2. It was the only thing China could ask since there is no other infrastructure in the north Pangong Tso region. What should China have demanded from India in that region other than DST post between 2 and 3?

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The camp has been there for a while, but India expanded it and built new infrastructure there including helipads, and roads. Similar construction happened at gogra, which was previously a small border outpost.

twineedle said:

The camp has been there for a while, but India expanded it and built new infrastructure there including helipads, and roads. Similar construction happened at gogra, which was previously a small border outpost.

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Its the only thing that can be demanded during the initial impasse where China pushed India back to the DST Finger 2/3.

Infrastructure constructed in what is deep within its own territory and LAC isn't the root cause for the Galwan clash.

In Gogra however, it's not just posts but multiple of them, that too far beyond the LAC (that you insist) of India.

India has never had any permanent post east of Dhan Singh Thapa, and doesn't even have road connection between fingers 3 and 4. As for hot Springs, ther is only one Indian and Chinese post in the disputed area between the differring perceptions. This is EAST of pp15, in an area neither side had occupied before. There were more, but they got moved back last July. The issue for both sides isn't forward camps that can be quickly removed, but supporting infrastructure, artillery and armor further back.

The current situation in Hot Springs and Gogra is quite clear, there is no need to speculate.