Shukla said the intrusion was 3 km not 2 km, and that the pla was blocking pp15. Very big difference between his claims and the ground reality. Yes, as per India China is violating the LAC, hence the statement that pp 15 is a problem. However, the same applies to China, whose claim line is along the river, where pp15 is.
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PLA has had a post roughly 6km from Kongka La, marked in the previous satellite images, for several decades. PLA also had outposts in Depsang in the red zone well before last year.
For Depsang, I shouldn't have used that map because the blue line is a bit more different and China's claim line is quite a bit different asa well. PLA posts basically mark China's control (blue line). It's close to this google's dotted version but google's is very accurate with the CIA and historic maps from Pangong.
My point here is to ask where India supposedly "occupied" Rechin and Rezang. Could you edit it with some dots/general circles to show where India occupied?
All the evidence from last year shows that there was a week long Indian intrusion which still didn't reach the blue line in the south of lake region and after they were pushed out, the Indians stayed on the base of Black top and Helmet tops with PLA occupying the peaks.
when did the Indian army claim to violate the LAC? the official terminology used was "readjustments." The Indian Army Chief even visited the peak of Rechin. The tweet says nothing about the LAC.
but that is beside the point, I was simply saying that prior to August, China insisted India vacate Dhan Singh Thapa before disengagement occured on the north bank, but eventually dropped that demand.
Where is the peak of Reqin? Reqin is a massive chunk of land. There is Indian reqin and Chinese reqin and disputed reqin LOL
These photo ops are FARRRRRRR from China. Well within either the left border (which is amazing for China) or on the left half side of the disputed. The furthest India's ever gone is on it's own half of the remaining western 20% disputed.
India tried to capture eastern half of disputed red zone in south of lake and failed. Then PLA occupied peak of black top and helmet top... both of which are on the western half of disputed OR on the freaking most forward claim line of China's - India's current de facto border AKA red line AKA one interpretation of LAC AKA Line that separates India proper to the west and disputed red zone to its east.
You said earlier as if india managed something. It hasn't.
A play of numbers. But not a big difference when it is contrasted with what Mitra is saying. The gist remains important.
True that China has claims beyond Indian LAC near PP15. Why would there be camps without claims.
Considering that until recently Depsang wasn't an issue, the minute changes there can be overlooked for the overall change in that region.
PLA indeed had a post near PP19.
Can you two stop discussing the unknown and developing situation of Gogra HS? Both sides are inside red zone north of the lake. The reason is because each side wants the other off and the other refuses because they want the other side off - catch 22 loop. Best situation for China is India agrees to buffer here as well just like on Pangong. India loses 100% of dispute while China loses 20% of dispute. 20% enforced by both as no man's land, not even patrolling and much less building up. Both sides can avoid small to large conflicts and PLA can devote fewer resources. If India ever considers and acts upon an invasion to cross buffer to threaten China's Aksai Chin and Tibet, then China can act militarily because it would be clear military escalation in entering buffer - this is why India absolutely refuses to create buffer. It needs AT LEAST a small passage to Aksai Chin.
Yes. The Indian Government is sure readjusting the LAC. Straight from the elephant's mouth.
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