Ladakh Flash Point

twineedle said:

Whether or not Abhijit Iyer supports Modi is irrelevant. What matters is all the satellite imagery corroborates his analysis, even almost a year later.

Compare his image/analysis to this recent image

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1366248078580195332

PAtrol points up to 19 are between the red line and gogra post. As I said before, pp 19 is directly behind kongka la.

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Xsizor said:

Bold 1: The lack of detailed information with Patrol Points etc.

Bold 2: Not biased. Simply following the changing LAC as determined by India. They aren't wrong, technically but here LAC can be shifted by India as per wish.

Bold 3: If LAC is as per Ajai Shukla (Assuming you accept), then Buffer zone could be in the 15km gap between the region. Ajai Shukla himself writes that after the initial confrontation, both armies moved back a set distance to de escalate.

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Xsizor said:

He draws the map. He doesn't point out where the patrol points are.

You have pointed out PP19 as just behind LAC.

If so, there should be no confrontation with China. Why does Indian government say that Hot springs Gogra PP17A is still an issue?

PP17A should be behind PP19.

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twineedle said:

And what makes you think Ajai Shukla can't shift the lac for political purposes?
The reason why I do not consider Shukla's map correct is because literally every other source available contradicts him. If he is right, wouldn't his map match at least one other image? On the other hand, there are multiple sources corroboarting Iyer's analysis. So it is clear who is more credible. Notice how no retired veterans have corroborated Shukla's claims, not even anti modi veterans like H.S Panag.

So you still don't have any clear evidence that the lac shown on Google(which India has claimed for decades) is wrong all of a sudden.

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Xsizor said:

You have pointed out PP19 as just behind LAC.

If so, there should be no confrontation with China. Why does Indian government say that Hot springs Gogra PP17A is still an issue?

PP17A should be behind PP19.

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Xsizor said:

Because unlike Abhijit Iyer Mitrea, Shukla backs up his depiction with detailed assessment.

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He points out the patrol points.

PP19, 20,21....etc.

There are no other source that uses PP19. If you insist on using PP19 then you can't distance from Ajai Shukla's map.


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twineedle said:

It doesn't matter how "detailed" Shukla is, there are no other sources corroborating his claims. Whereas Iyer clearly labeled the LAC and Chinese claims, and labeled the exact position of every Indian and Chinese position at the time. Unlike Shukla, his anlaysis has been proven correct by recent satellite imagery analysis.

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twineedle said:

The only reason I brought up pp19 is becasue you did first. I was solely discussing satellite imagery of the area before you cha

The ground reality is, China tried to change the lac(dotted line) in Gogra but failed.

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Xsizor said:

Question 1:
Where are all the patrol points in the Mitra map of yours.

Question 2:
Why do Indian government insist that problems exist in PP17A, even though it is behind the LAC as per you. No Chinese camp exists near these regions as per Mitra map or LAC.

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twineedle said:

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