JH-7/JH-7A/JH-7B Thread

[Deino]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

The guy in the back ejected. The guy in front didn't.

Yeppp ...

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[Quickie]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

The puff of dust is from the seat seperating from the pilot and hitting the ground.

I think I remember reading somewhere that for two seat aircraft, the pilot's ejection handle ejects both pilot and WSO while the backseat ejection handle would only eject the back seat. That might be reversed in trainers where the instructor usually sits in the back with the trainee in the front.

I think that there is an unhealthy culture within the PLAAF for pilots to want to do too much to save the plane when they really should have ejected. While this has lead to so amazing saves with planes coming back when they would have been abandoned and crashed in any other country, the downside is that some PLAAF pilots are killed needlessly trying to save an unsaveable plane despite having enough time to eject.

Hopefully this is something they will change over time.

You've a point there. If, for example, it comes up to saving 2 planes for the cost of 1 pilot's life, what's the point there at all?

 

[siegecrossbow]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

The puff of dust is from the seat seperating from the pilot and hitting the ground.

I think I remember reading somewhere that for two seat aircraft, the pilot's ejection handle ejects both pilot and WSO while the backseat ejection handle would only eject the back seat. That might be reversed in trainers where the instructor usually sits in the back with the trainee in the front.

I think that there is an unhealthy culture within the PLAAF for pilots to want to do too much to save the plane when they really should have ejected. While this has lead to so amazing saves with planes coming back when they would have been abandoned and crashed in any other country, the downside is that some PLAAF pilots are killed needlessly trying to save an unsaveable plane despite having enough time to eject.

Hopefully this is something they will change over time.

This unhealthy habit began in the late eighties and early 90s when the PLAAF was severely underfunded. The machines were expensive, so the pilots were instructed to save them at all costs.

 

[Jeff Head]

JH-7 Crashes at airshow

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X'ian Chinese Central Television caught on tape the crash of a Chinese Air Force jet on Friday. The plane was a two-seater JH-7 “Flying Leopard” fighter-bomber, according to CBS News. One of the pilots survived, but the other is missing and feared dead:


The pilot who ejected suffered only minor injuries, but his comrade appeared to have been trapped in the doomed plane, the official Xinhua News Agency said, citing eyewitnesses and air show organizer, He Liang.

Here's the video of the crash, also available at the site. Apparently two personnel may have been on board and only one ejected.

[video=youtube;5grh2VGsI5s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5grh2VGsI5s[/video]

 

[SteelBird]

Re: JH-7 Crashes at airshow

I'd like to say that JH-7A has quite a few crashes recently. Do you think this would set alarm for its reliability?

 

[getready]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

i think the pilot tried to steer the jet awaay from crashing tinto civilians. i remember reading an incident like that too. its just a deep sense of duty.

 

[Lion]

Re: JH-7 Crashes at airshow

That ejection is very late. If late by 0.5 seconds, not even a single pilot will survive. I think both pilot try desperately to save the plane. Abandon the plane only at very last minute. PLAAF doctrine emphasize on saving every plane as possible.

 

[Jeff Head]

Re: JH-7 Crashes at airshow

That ejection is very late. If late by 0.5 seconds, not even a single pilot will survive. I think both pilot try desperately to save the plane. Abandon the plane only at very last minute. PLAAF doctrine emphasize on saving every plane as possible.

I think the pilot was also trying to avoid injury and death on the ground. Clearly, he ejected late, but only near the end with the nose down and the aircraft pointed into a vacant field.

Reports indicated one did not get out.

 

[Lion]

Re: JH-7 Crashes at airshow

I think the pilot was also trying to avoid injury and death on the ground. Clearly, he ejected late, but only near the end with the nose down and the aircraft pointed into a vacant field.

Reports indicated one did not get out.

Jeff, do you know what Airshow is happening in China? I don't think is Zhuhai Airshow,right?

 

[Lion]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

i think the pilot tried to steer the jet awaay from crashing tinto civilians. i remember reading an incident like that too. its just a deep sense of duty.

It is already far away from the crowd. More likely the pilot is trying to save the plane which causes its death.